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WSJ: The 'Insurance Policy' Mentioned In Those FBI Texts Referred To The Russia Investigation
Townhall.com ^ | December 2017 | Matt Vespa

Posted on 12/18/2017 6:38:25 PM PST by Kaslin

We all had our suspicions about what FBI agent Peter Strzok meant by “insurance policy,” which he wrote in a text to bureau lawyer Lisa Page, a woman with whom he was having an extramarital affair. The text was one of 10,000 that were sent between these two FBI officials from August 15, 2015-December 1, 2016; this one was sent to Page in August of 2016. The Wall Street Journal reported that according to agents familiar with Strzok’s account, he was referring to the Russia investigation when he mentioned “insurance.” He was removed from Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation in August once he was informed about these communications; the DOJ inspector general was looking into their texts. Strzok, who was in counter-intelligence, was part of two key FBI investigations. He was involved in the Hillary Clinton email probe and the bureau’s counterintelligence investigation into whether the Trump campaign colluded with the Russians during the 2016 election, which he signed off on making this inquiry official back in July of 2016. Hence, why eyebrows were raised over this “insurance” reference (via WSJ) [emphasis mine]:

An FBI agent’s reference to “an insurance policy” in a much-debated text message was meant to convey that the bureau needed to aggressively investigate allegations of collusion between Donald Trump’s campaign and Russia, according to people familiar with his account.

The agent didn’t intend to suggest a secret plan to harm the candidate but rather address a colleague who believed the Federal Bureau of Investigation could take its time because Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton was certain to win the election, the people said.

The text was one of many that have recently emerged in which FBI Agent Peter Strzok and FBI lawyer Lisa Page disparaged Mr. Trump, calling him an “idiot” and “loathsome human,” among other things.

Republicans have cited the texts as evidence of bias. Sen. Chuck Grassley (R., Iowa), who chairs the Senate Judiciary Committee, wrote the Justice Department: “Some of these texts appear to go beyond merely expressing a private political opinion, and appear to cross the line into taking some official action to create an ‘insurance policy’ against a Trump presidency.”

Mr. Strzok was the lead agent on the FBI investigation into Mrs. Clinton’s use of a private email server while secretary of state. Until late July, he was also the top investigator in special counsel Robert Mueller’s office, but Mr. Mueller removed him after learning of the texts.

The Justice Department’s Inspector General is examining the texts as part of an investigation of how the FBI and Justice Department handled the Clinton inquiry.

Few of the messages have attracted as much attention as the one sent by Mr. Strzok to Ms. Page in August 2016 mentioning an “insurance policy,” which critics have read as reflecting an intent to prevent Mr. Trump from winning.

Mr. Strzok wrote, “I want to believe the path you threw out for consideration in Andy’s office—that there’s no way he gets elected—but I’m afraid we can’t take that risk. It’s like an insurance policy in the unlikely event you die before you’re 40…”

On Twitter, Wilber expounded more on this, while adding that this doesn’t point to a deep state plot to block Donald Trump from winning. Plainly, it shows that this isn’t one of the FBI’s proudest moments, with former agents apparently appalled by Strzok’s behavior, given the nature of these texts, his position in two key investigations, and the added bonus that he was having an affair with an FBI attorney. All of this speaks to the credibility of the agency. It potentially speaks volumes about the office culture at the FBI, along with the judgment Mueller has when it comes to picking his staff. The Journal’s editorial board noted other troubling instances, like a now-demoted DOJ official, Bruce Ohr, meeting with the authors of the infamous and unverified Trump dossier. Oh, and his wife, Nellie, worked for the firm—Fusion GPS—that hired former MI6 operative Christopher Steele, who compiled the file, which was subsidized by the Hillary Clinton campaign. The publication added that evidence is mounting that the FBI possibly engaged in election meddling. We’ll see, but for now—the “insurance” referred to is the Russia investigation. Also, another thing the WSJ noted that former agents and prosecutors were flabbergasted that Page and Strzok were even texting each other about these cases. 

Yet, let’s be honest. Even if the probe was to be an aggressive review into whether the Donald Trump’s campaign and Russia colluded, and there was—in this hypothetical—evidence of collusion, you don’t think Democrats would try to refocus this inquiry upstream to ensnare Trump? Of course they would. That’s why they’ve been obsessing about it for months. To this day, there is zero evidence that the Trump campaign colluded with Russia. 

There are other instances at the FBI that are just as troubling as the texts, like former FBI Director James Comey drafting an exoneration statement for Hillary Clinton before agents had interviewed the former first lady. Oh, and Mr. Strzok editing the statement, like nixing the phrase “grossly negligent” to “extremely careless.” Mr. Comey was also investigated for violating the Hatch Act, a law that bars federal employees within the executive from engaging in most political activities. His top aides, FBI chief of staff James Rybicki and FBI attorney Trisha Anderson were interviewed, but the FBI has refused to turn over the transcripts. Even without the deep state drama, we already have conduct that some in the FBI were injecting their political biases into the investigations. Hence, the reason why the National Review wants someone to scrutinize the FBI’s conduct in the execution of their investigations into the Clinton email probe and possible Russian collusion. Why? Because it’s night and day:

Everything that has happened in the Trump probe stands out against a backdrop of leniency in the Clinton investigation. While Mueller has prosecuted two Trump associates for lying to the FBI, the Obama Justice Department gave a pass to Mrs. Clinton and her subordinates, who gave the FBI misinformation about such key matters as whether Clinton understood markings in classified documents and whether her aides knew about her homebrew server system during their State Department service. Mueller’s team conducted a predawn raid at gunpoint in executing a search warrant on Paul Manafort’s home while Manafort was cooperating with congressional committees. When it came to the Clinton case, though, the Justice Department not only eschewed search warrants, or even mere subpoenas, but they never even took possession of the DNC server alleged to have been hacked by Russian operatives.

We need some answers. I won’t speculate on the more Parallax View aspects of these texts. Surely, the leaks from the intelligence community were unacceptable and some folks in that field thought it would be best to try and hamstring this administration. We’ll have to see what happens next regarding the texts and the FBI. There are surely some troubling activities here, deep state or not. 

THREAD:

Peter Strzok, the FBI agent, and Lisa Page, the FBI lawyer, were having an affair. They were texting about everything (sharply critical of Bernie Sanders, Chelsea Clinton, Eric Holder, esp Trump). Even the Russia probe. They even joked about potential code names for it. 2/x— Del Quentin Wilber (@DelWilber) December 18, 2017

She suggested Latitude because it sounded military but wasn’t specific enough to draw attention. He thought that was good, but then jokingly proposed “YUUUGE,” (Trump’s NY accent version of HUGE). But he noted he might save that one if the FBI ever opens a case on Trump. 3/x— Del Quentin Wilber (@DelWilber) December 18, 2017

A few days before the “insurance” text, he says: “OMG I CANNOT BELIEVE WE ARE SERIOUSLY LOOKING AT THESE ALLEGATIONS AND THE PERVASIVE CONNECTIONS.” then: “What the hell has happened to our country????” He appears flabbergasted by what he has seen. 4/x— Del Quentin Wilber (@DelWilber) December 18, 2017

So Page, Strzok & others meet in Dep. Dir Andrew McCabe’s office. (everyone agrees on that). People familiar with their account tell me that Page says HRC is likely to win and they can take their time on what could be a rather complicated investigation of Russian meddling. 5/x— Del Quentin Wilber (@DelWilber) December 18, 2017

This is a very sensitive counterintelligence probe -- most CI probes involve some of the FBI’s and US govt’s most closely held secrets/tactics/strategies/sources/methods -- so it would make sense to be methodical, think through things, not risk key assets. 6/x— Del Quentin Wilber (@DelWilber) December 18, 2017

(side note) Why they are texting about this case -- even elliptically -- on cellphones is kind of mind boggling, according to former agents and prosecutors. 7/x— Del Quentin Wilber (@DelWilber) December 18, 2017

About 630 a.m. on Aug 15, Strzok wrote: “I want to believe the path you threw out for consideration in Andy’s office—that there’s no way he gets elected—but I’m afraid we can’t take that risk. It’s like an insurance policy in the unlikely event you die before you’re 40…” 8/x— Del Quentin Wilber (@DelWilber) December 18, 2017

Here, according to the people familiar with his account, he is saying: You are probably right. Hillary is going to win, and we can take our time. But he doesn’t believe they can take that risk. We need to be aggressive, he is saying, no matter who might win... 9/x— Del Quentin Wilber (@DelWilber) December 18, 2017

In fact, he is saying, we need to pursue this as if Trump might win because then people we are investigating might end up in his administration. Remember: he had just texted her IN ALL CAPS how mind-blowing this all was. 10/x— Del Quentin Wilber (@DelWilber) December 18, 2017

So the “insurance” policy means in a texty way that sometimes you get insurance in the unlikely event you might die. A small cost (insurance is less expensive the younger you are) is a good investment. This is how he views Trump/Russia/Clinton. 11/x— Del Quentin Wilber (@DelWilber) December 18, 2017

According to the people familiar with his account, he is literally saying an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. We have to proceed aggressively in the off-chance Trump succeeds so we can have answers by then, if possible. 12/x— Del Quentin Wilber (@DelWilber) December 18, 2017

Trump allies read this as evidence the FBI was cooking up a conspiracy to prevent Trump from winning. But we've seen no sign of that. Did FBI Director Jim Comey not get the memo? Comey has been savaged by DEMs for wrecking HRC’s chances with the last-minute letter to Congress! pic.twitter.com/8MnuL1WfrJ— Del Quentin Wilber (@DelWilber) December 18, 2017

There is no evidence Strzok or Page or anyone else at FBI leaked anything before the election to hurt Trump. In fact, the Obama admin has been criticized for not saying more about Russia before nov 8. https://t.co/uQjO7CqIeh 13/x pic.twitter.com/IcpsfKvTgg— Del Quentin Wilber (@DelWilber) December 18, 2017

The FBI agent and lawyer did themselves no favors with their behavior. Strzok was heading two of the most consequential investigations in FBI history, and he texted like this and had an affair? And about the case (somewhat slyly)? Former agents cannot believe this. 14/x— Del Quentin Wilber (@DelWilber) December 18, 2017

The text themselves raise so many questions about impartiality that a loyal Bureau man to his core -- Mueller -- jettisoned Strzok from his team probably within minutes of learning about the texts. 15/x— Del Quentin Wilber (@DelWilber) December 18, 2017

As Stewart Baker, former general counsel at NSA, wrote on LAWFARE: “The texts say a lot, none of it good, about the FBI’s culture and Bob Mueller’s staffing choices. They say nothing about a grand plot by the Deep State.” https://t.co/EuhkfORMzI 16/x— Del Quentin Wilber (@DelWilber) December 18, 2017

It is what it is. The explanation is probably unsatisfying to many who wish there was a conspiracy and to those who wish there was a more innocuous explanation. No water carrying here. Just the facts. Tips: pop an email to me and I will send you my signal: https://t.co/gJSkgR688V— Del Quentin Wilber (@DelWilber) December 18, 2017



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: 2016election; delquentinwilber; delwilber; frame; presidenttrump; russia; strzok; strzoktexts; texting; trumprussia; wilber
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1 posted on 12/18/2017 6:38:25 PM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

B.S., there was no “Russia investigation” in Summer 2016. Whatever idea these FBI clowns had for an “insurance policy” had to be more definite than just a hope for some future hypothetical investigation.


2 posted on 12/18/2017 6:41:26 PM PST by Enchante (FusionGPS "dirty dossier" scandal links Hillary, FBI, CIA, Dept of Justice... "Deep State" is real)
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To: Kaslin

Here comes the “deep state” try at a cover-up. Easy to see through this one. Childish. Silly.


3 posted on 12/18/2017 6:42:31 PM PST by LongWayHome
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To: LongWayHome

I can imagine Stzok’s lawyers picking out the best possible explanation and then force feeding it to him without suborning perjury - “this is what you really meant, isn’t it”; “the word ‘insurance’ has many meanings and this is undoubtedly the one you and your mistress meant, isn’t it?”


4 posted on 12/18/2017 6:48:42 PM PST by laconic
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To: Kaslin

Quite a bit of words for the WSJ to back up the FBI.

The FBI IS corrupt, bank on it.


5 posted on 12/18/2017 6:51:28 PM PST by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west))
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To: laconic

This is leaking your guilt so people get used to it and it starts to sound normal. The Russia investigation is the worst possible explanation for that text message. It tells you their motivation was totally inappropriate.


6 posted on 12/18/2017 6:54:27 PM PST by Williams (Stop tolerating the intolerant.)
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To: Kaslin
The text was one of 10,000 that were sent between these two FBI officials from August 15, 2015-December 1, 2016

Call that period of time to be 500 days (it's less), that means 200 texts per day, EVERY day.

That doesn't make sense.

7 posted on 12/18/2017 6:56:09 PM PST by Balding_Eagle ( The Great Wall of Trump ---- 100% sealing of the border. Coming soon.)
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To: laconic

No doubt they are floating this out there to see how it works....it’s pretty weak sauce IMO.


8 posted on 12/18/2017 6:57:02 PM PST by LongWayHome
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To: Kaslin

Sounds like an admission that Mueller and the ‘Rats ARE attempting a coup d’etat.


9 posted on 12/18/2017 6:57:07 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: Enchante

The insurance policy was not the investigation
It was seeding the intelligence community with contrived evidence of “ collusion”

then using that contrived ( planted and set up) evidence and the intel community to spy on Trump and everyone in his campaign and instigate an “ investigation” to take down the Presidency

The imsurance policy was not the investigation
It was a set up to justify an investigation


10 posted on 12/18/2017 6:57:11 PM PST by silverleaf (A man who kneels for the national anthem doesn't stand for much of anything)
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To: Kaslin

Total crap.

The insurance policy was a FISA warrant for electronic surveillance based on a fake dossier.


11 posted on 12/18/2017 6:58:00 PM PST by KyCats
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To: Enchante
B.S., there was no “Russia investigation” in Summer 2016. Whatever idea these FBI clowns had for an “insurance policy” had to be more definite than just a hope for some future hypothetical investigation.

I don't get what you're angry about. This is pretty damning stuff about Strzok. This story certainly isn't coming from Strok's friends. It shows that the Russia investigation was a farce.

12 posted on 12/18/2017 7:02:59 PM PST by SSS Two
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To: KyCats
The insurance policy was a FISA warrant for electronic surveillance based on a fake dossier.

Your timeline is off. The "insurance policy" text was written in August 2016, before the FISA warrant.

13 posted on 12/18/2017 7:04:47 PM PST by SSS Two
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To: Enchante

Insurance is a term for blackmail.

These people should go to prison

But not surprised bureaucrat wannabe agents would become pure litigating blackmailing Russian mafia themselves

It is the MO of democrats and Obama: blackmail and threats of violence or even implement of it

Obviously Russians wanted to blackmail Trump without Russians looking the part, using dumb rabid liberals, angry RINOs and most of all Obama as their chief agent to do the job for them

But not until the media and his buddies stops covering up for Obama and Obama for the Russian deep Soviet state mafia and its intrusion in US government will we ever start tackling this crap in earnest


14 posted on 12/18/2017 7:05:16 PM PST by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucifiedc)
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To: SSS Two

The point is that Strzok had something much more definite in mind (the fake “dossier” or some version of it), something that he thought could really knock out any possible Trump presidency. So, sure, it’s related to a hypothetical future “investigation” but my point is that Strzok aimed to guarantee the results of an investigation. The means to guarantee the end result, not the mere fact of an investigation, is what would qualify as “insurance” in the mind of someone like Strzok.


15 posted on 12/18/2017 7:09:45 PM PST by Enchante (FusionGPS "dirty dossier" scandal links Hillary, FBI, CIA, Dept of Justice... "Deep State" is real)
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To: Kaslin

Not buying any of it.


16 posted on 12/18/2017 7:10:22 PM PST by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them)
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To: silverleaf

Yes, exactly! Strzok had to be able to guarantee the end result, otherwise it does not qualify as “insurance” in the context of wanting to prevent or expel any possible Trump presidency. It was not enough to get an investigation, Strzok had to be able (he thought) to guarantee the outcome of the investigation.


17 posted on 12/18/2017 7:12:03 PM PST by Enchante (FusionGPS "dirty dossier" scandal links Hillary, FBI, CIA, Dept of Justice... "Deep State" is real)
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To: Kaslin

The daggone dirty “dossier” was the “insurance policy”. Stzok was arguing for, despite the fact that his girlfriend and boss knew it was dirty. But they went forward with it and now they’re trying to spin it.


18 posted on 12/18/2017 7:16:41 PM PST by advance_copy (Stand for life or nothing at all)
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To: Enchante

Nail hit by you with hammer!


19 posted on 12/18/2017 7:17:48 PM PST by advance_copy (Stand for life or nothing at all)
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To: Kaslin
More likely the assassination of Trump.

After all - It was Hillary's turn, wasn't it?


20 posted on 12/18/2017 7:18:32 PM PST by Vlad The Inhaler (United We Stand, Divided We Fall. Remember That Diversity Is The Opposite Of Unity.)
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