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FBI investigating whether Russian money went to NRA to help Trump
MSN/Washington Tribune ^ | 1-18-2017 | PETER STONE AND GREG GORDON

Posted on 01/18/2018 1:55:40 PM PST by tcrlaf

The FBI is investigating whether a top Russian banker with ties to the Kremlin illegally funneled money to the National Rifle Association to help Donald Trump win the presidency, two sources familiar with the matter have told McClatchy.

FBI counterintelligence investigators have focused on the activities of Alexander Torshin, the deputy governor of Russia’s central bank who is known for his close relationships with both Russian President Vladimir Putin and the NRA, the sources said.

It is illegal to use foreign money to influence federal elections.

It’s unclear how long the Torshin inquiry has been ongoing, but the news comes as Justice Department Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s sweeping investigation of Russian meddling in the 2016 election, including whether the Kremlin colluded with Trump’s campaign, has been heating up.

All of the sources spoke on condition of anonymity because Mueller’s investigation is confidential and mostly involves classified information.

(Excerpt) Read more at msn.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; desperation; duplicate; fakenews; fbi; jamescomey; mueller; nra; pathetic; peterstrzok; ratsjumpingship; robertmueller; secondamendment; trump; trumprussia
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To: tcrlaf

They are going to end up taking money out of politics. Give each candidate a million and spend it wisely. There is no way to keep money clean on either side.


21 posted on 01/18/2018 2:27:35 PM PST by napscoordinator (Trump/Hunter, jr for President/Vice President 2016)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

thanks tcrlaf.

House Intel Committee Democrats Started The False ‘Russia On Facebook’ Story
The Federalist | 1/18/2018 | Willis Krumholz
Posted on 01/18/2018 1:11:50 PM PST by mojito
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3623722/posts


22 posted on 01/18/2018 2:29:08 PM PST by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: I want the USA back

How about all the money Obammie the Commie took from foreign nationals when he took credit-card donations through the Internet and did not put a Country filter on the source?

Everyone knew that people all over the world were giving money to campaign of Jug Ears.


23 posted on 01/18/2018 2:33:21 PM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare to survive.)
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To: tcrlaf

Seems pretty serious. Turned the NRA types that would have voted for Clinton. Both of them.


24 posted on 01/18/2018 2:40:44 PM PST by Rinnwald
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To: tcrlaf

Maybe we can investigate to see if money was funneled to Planned Parenthood to help Hillary get elected. This is total BS.


25 posted on 01/18/2018 2:42:06 PM PST by hsmomx3
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To: tcrlaf; JoSixChip; hillarynot; Jane Long; BlackFemaleArmyCaptain; Black Agnes; djstex; ...

Being a long card carrying member of the NRA, I really doubt that they would be taking money from Russia for any election...

We in the NRA fully supported President Trump as Our Candidate and support him now as Our President...

Now if there are any monies coming from Russia to anyone I would wholly suggest that it went to the Clinton Foundation and the DNC for the Hillary Campaign...

I think it’s time for Our President to boot our DOJ in the ass and get some work done, starting with Muller and then going down the line!!!


26 posted on 01/18/2018 2:47:06 PM PST by HarleyLady27 ( "The Force Awakens!!!"...Trump and Pence: MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!!)
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To: lapsus calami

27 posted on 01/18/2018 2:54:25 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (“If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: tcrlaf

Why investigate it. It’s right out there in plain view.


28 posted on 01/18/2018 2:56:29 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (“If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: tcrlaf; All

WINNER WINNER Chicken Dinner, Post of the Day, etc.

People, I picked up on the same thing less than 5 seconds after reading just the headline.

* If the FBI was conducting such an investigation, why leak it?
* If this was really a crime (accepting foreign $$ to elect public officials) you would have to close down half the lobbyist offices on K street and 75% of the NGO’s.
* It is NOT illegal for the NRA or anyone else to take $$ from foreign sources (else you couldn’t accept online donations). For non profits, all contributions are disclosed anyway. What’s to investigate.

OF COURSE THIS WAS LEAKED (OR MADE UP) JUST TO COUNTER THE OTHER STORY!

Permission to speak freely?

Thank you.

I still hope for the day when we can self-police ourselves about peddling any of false propaganda being “leaked” by the enemy. I know for a fact this is done at times solely because people on “our side” will take it as gospel and start passing it around.

CALLING IT FAKE NEWS IS AN INSULT TO THE WORD ‘NEWS’!!

They are lies - plain and simple. How many have we heard from these so-called ‘reputable sources’ who claim they get their information from ‘sources close to the {whatever} who are not authorized to speak’?

Heck, these days you have elected official lying right on camera, and I’ll see hundreds of comments on the matter. But when some truth gets out there, we have to wait for CNN, AP, NYT, etc. to reported before some of us even believe it.

Perhaps we should practice posting links from CREDIBLE NEWS SOURCES.

I’m done. I swear I’m gonna write a long article about this one day.

Thank you again, tcrlaf.

jimjohn - OUT.


29 posted on 01/18/2018 3:00:17 PM PST by jimjohn (2nd American Civil War: ongoing since January 20, 2017.)
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To: tcrlaf

We currently have billions of tax dollars being directed to the world’s largest murder-for-hire organization which also funnels the money back into political support.

It is only a matter of time before our current Civil War goes hot.


30 posted on 01/18/2018 3:06:06 PM PST by unlearner (You will never come to know that which you do not know until you first know that you do not know it.)
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To: tcrlaf

We need something to grasp at— quick bring more straws said Mueller.


31 posted on 01/18/2018 3:07:28 PM PST by Billyv ( Freedom isn't Free! Get off the sidelines!)
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To: tcrlaf

Glenn Simpson of Fusion GPS seems to the the originator of this nonsense. Sean Davis, of The Federalist, has excerpted the testimony:

https://twitter.com/seanmdav/status/954113627665190912


32 posted on 01/18/2018 3:10:38 PM PST by mojito (Zero, our Nero.)
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To: tcrlaf

But but but
Theres foreign money and then there’s RUSSIAN money
Btw did former president Bill Clinton ever register as a foreign lobbyist?
He took a lot more Russian loot than some of the figures being “ indicted” by the Mad Mueller


33 posted on 01/18/2018 3:13:07 PM PST by silverleaf (A man who kneels for the national anthem doesn't stand for much of anything)
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To: tcrlaf
Russia wanted Hillary to be president, not Trump.

There were more Uranium One's in their future. Besides, Russia has TONS of blackmail material on Hillary they obtained from her illegal insecure server, etc.

34 posted on 01/18/2018 3:38:59 PM PST by CivilWarBrewing (Get off my back for my usage of CAPS, especially you snowflake males! MAN UP!)
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To: CivilWarBrewing

They have so little on Trump, they had to make it up. A witch hunt by the head of the coven, this is.


35 posted on 01/18/2018 4:26:46 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (“If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: lapsus calami

Sure sounds like it. I thought the same when I heard the Dems accusing the Russians being behind Chelsea Manning running for Senate. However, it turned out to be true.


36 posted on 01/18/2018 4:33:16 PM PST by apocalypto
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To: tcrlaf

tcrlaf: Gonna “Up Trump” your right reaction from “You have GOT to be kidding me...” to “You have GOT to be Shitting me...”.

NRA stands for “No Russian Anything”. Reds fear “rifles” esp. if Americans are holding them. That why the Democrats are all for abolishing the 2nd Amendment.


37 posted on 01/18/2018 7:27:54 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: tcrlaf

LMAO!!!! This is over the top....if true.


38 posted on 01/18/2018 7:32:08 PM PST by lgjhn23 (It's easy to be liberal when you're dumber than a box of rocks.)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Gee, 45 years ago I shook David Keene’s hand at the ACU headquarters, or at a Heritage Foundation book-signing, or perhaps at the Hawk and Dove.

Does that constitute a “Russian” connection according to the Democrats? I thought my partial Russian heritage would do that except my father’s parents etc fled the Pogroms and became Americans.

McClatchey papers. First cousin to the Marxist publications like “In These Times”, “The Nation” and the “Peoples Weekly World”.

Oh, do I get jailed because I had Russian dressing on my chicken tonight? According to McClatchey I would have to be brought up before a congressional committee because of it.

It is amazing how the far-left media and politicians in our country can go from 1 to 100 mph in a few seconds as they did on the fake “Dossiergate”, and now the fake “NRAgate” stories.

So far all the proven “collusion” with the Russians was by the Democrats and if you shake out the reds in Congress, you will find a pile of Marxists with all kinds of ties to communist dictatorships from Venezuela, Cuba, to Russia/Soviet Union, Red China, and even No. Korea.

These are, indeed, “strange times” we live in.


39 posted on 01/18/2018 7:50:23 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Mr. N. Wolfe

Come now, Russia is no idiot...it seemingly played both sides.


40 posted on 01/18/2018 8:37:37 PM PST by cranked
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