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Border Patrol Defends Arrest On Greyhound Bus Amid Outcry [Miami Media ANGRY as Law is Enforced!]
CBS MIAMI ^ | 1/22/18

Posted on 01/23/2018 2:59:35 AM PST by SoFloFreeper

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To: SoFloFreeper
“We’ve actually heard accusations of border patrol agents getting on Greyhound buses, specifically, for years,” she said.

Too bad . You have to go back. If they have been doing it fir years what is the problem?

21 posted on 01/23/2018 4:24:54 AM PST by csvset ( Illegitimi non carborundum)
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To: CIB-173RDABN

Protect the country from the pests California farmers infect us with.


22 posted on 01/23/2018 4:25:34 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Did Barack Obama denounce Communism and dictatorships when he visited Cuba as a puppet of the State?)
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To: CIB-173RDABN

That’s the excuse just as the excuse of the airlines (dating back 30 years) is to ask for ID for “safety”. Didn’t prevent the 9-11 attacks but it did keep travelers from profiting by selling their return trip tickets when round trips were cheaper than one-way tickets.

It’s protectionism. No other states do this. I’d need to be shown some independent study that all of the other states have such dire problems from an orange being brought across state lines.


23 posted on 01/23/2018 4:31:19 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Did Barack Obama denounce Communism and dictatorships when he visited Cuba as a puppet of the State?)
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To: csvset

As long as this is all they catch, there will be little fuss. A bigger question is what will be done for an actual American in inconvenient circumstances.


24 posted on 01/23/2018 4:32:10 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Remember, civil asset forfeiture began with “good” intentions of seizing assets from suspected criminals so they would not use those assets for legal defense.

All I can say here is that I hope that ICE had probable cause to demand identification for each individual. Sure, LEOs can ask for ID, but they cannot hold someone without probable cause. If someone refuses to hand over their ID travelling on a bus, train, as a passenger in a car or just walking within the US, that does not in itself constitute probable cause.

Most Americans want their border enforced. But they don’t like it when law enforcement exploits popular public sentiment as a pretext to strip citizens of their 4th amendment rights.

Airports are basically constitution free zones; do we really want checkpoints for those travelling as passengers within the country as well? Because, we all know that 0bama was doing this against regular citizens just a few years ago, and Hitlery would certainly have promoted checkpoints as a means of hassling the “deplorables”.


25 posted on 01/23/2018 4:40:52 AM PST by grumpygresh (When will Soros be brought to justice? Crush the vermin, crush the Left.)
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To: raybbr

This happens all over the world usually in a much more traumatic manner. Only in the USA do we love illegals.


26 posted on 01/23/2018 4:43:46 AM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said theoal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

No suspicion if crime, no requirement to show ID, even in a stop and ID state like FL. That said, if Immigration is combing the bus I’d be more than happy to assist by showing ID.


27 posted on 01/23/2018 4:48:50 AM PST by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Flag burners can go screw -- I'm mighty PROUD of that ragged old flag)
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To: grumpygresh

Sentiment understood, and God grant Donald Trump a golden tongue if that’s what is needed here to do anything about known unauthorized residents.

If sweeping entire buses becomes the trend, Donald will need to politically sell it. If I were advising outrage-mongers among Democrats, I’d say lean libertarian; have an actual cause to boost rather than a murky constellation of things to hate.


28 posted on 01/23/2018 4:48:53 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Dems will never lean libertarian. They are totalitarian. It would go against their nature.


29 posted on 01/23/2018 4:52:45 AM PST by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Flag burners can go screw -- I'm mighty PROUD of that ragged old flag)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

Most people who aren’t fools would do that. Still the bristling might not be an easy thing to deflect.

Libertarians need a relatively pure and non welfare state country to safely fly their ideals, such as lax sumptuary laws. And Donald can deal, quid pro quo. Can Donald grok libertarian? Can he square that circle? I don’t deem it impossible.


30 posted on 01/23/2018 4:56:50 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

If you go home, when your visa expires, you have to buy a ticket.
If you overstay, the government deports you, on the taxpayer’s dime.
Anyone see a flaw in the system here?


31 posted on 01/23/2018 4:59:25 AM PST by Fireone (Lock Her Up! (and 100 of her accomplices))
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

Who knows though. Democrats have been social vacuum fillers. If the vacuum du jour is liberty, this could transform their approach.

Though from what I have seen in my sad life, I agree, Democrats tend to stink. Even when promising perfume. The few that honestly try not to stink end up migrating to the GOP as Ronald Reagan and Donald Trump did. As the Dem party platform is unequal to the task.

I want to see what cards Donald Trump plays.


32 posted on 01/23/2018 5:05:12 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY0WxgSXdEE
[Queen - Another One Bites the Dust - should be the ICE official theme song]

Steve walks warily down the street
With the brim pulled way down low
Ain’t no sound but the sound of his feet
Machine guns ready to go
Are you ready? Hey, are you ready for this?
Are you hanging on the edge of your seat?
Out of the doorway the bullets rip
To the sound of the beat, yeah

Another one bites the dust
Another one bites the dust
And another one gone, and another one gone
Another one bites the dust, yeah
Hey, I’m gonna get you too
Another one bites the dust

How do you think I’m going to get along
Without you, when you’re gone
You took me for everything that I had
And kicked me out on my own
Are you happy, are you satisfied?
How long can you stand the heat?
Out of the doorway the bullets rip
To the sound of the beat
Look out

Another one bites the dust
Another one bites the dust
And another one gone, and another one gone
Another one bites the dust
Hey, I’m gonna get you too
Another one bites the dust

Hey
Oh, take it
Bite the dust, hey
Another one bites the dust
Another one bites the dust, ow
Another one bites the dust, hey hey
Another one bites the dust, hey-eh-eh
Ooh

There are plenty of ways you can hurt a man
And bring him to the ground
You can beat him, you can cheat him, you can treat him bad
And leave him when he’s down, yeah
But I’m ready, yes I’m ready for you
I’m standing on my own two feet
Out of the doorway the bullets rip
Repeating the sound of the beat
Oh yeah

Another one bites the dust
Another one bites the dust
And another one gone, and another one gone
Another one bites the dust(Yeah)
Hey, I’m gonna get you too
Another one bites the dust


33 posted on 01/23/2018 5:05:12 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: a fool in paradise

I remember that police stopped a Greyhound bus I was riding on in the 70’s, it was somewhere in the Southwest (I was traveling to California) and escorted three Mexican-looking young men off the bus. The officers did not ask anyone else (the Anglos) for ID.


34 posted on 01/23/2018 5:05:30 AM PST by Ciexyz (I'm conservative & traditionalist, a nationalist and patriot.)
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To: Ciexyz

Democrats are in trouble”....legal immigrants hate illegals....

Ask a few...

If the economy is booming the GOP will win in November..


35 posted on 01/23/2018 5:15:18 AM PST by Hojczyk
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To: Fireone

It might not be unthinkable to require temporary visitors to already have their exit tickets. With private charity agencies serving emergency needs as they may so wish, but without government guarantee.


36 posted on 01/23/2018 5:15:18 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: grumpygresh

It seems a little circular. If you want your 4th amendment rights respected prove that you are a citizen & entitled to them.


37 posted on 01/23/2018 5:29:55 AM PST by JayGalt (Let Trump Be Trump)
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To: SoFloFreeper

It is the LAW that all non-citizens have their visa papers with them at all times.


38 posted on 01/23/2018 5:36:57 AM PST by txrefugee
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To: Ciexyz

Way back in 1978 ,I was in the Marine Reserves, We flew from Alameda to the Orange County Airport. From there we took busses to 29 Palms, about 150 miles away. Somewhere out in the vast openness that lay between thise two points, we were stopped at a Border Patrol checkpoint. Even though we were in uniform, everyone had to show an ID.


39 posted on 01/23/2018 5:39:53 AM PST by csvset ( Illegitimi non carborundum)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Nothing to defend. Great job Border Patrol.

Just after Trump was in office, I passed a Border Patrol truck on the freeway. I looked at the officer and flashed a thumbs up.

He responded quickly and in kind, obviously thrilled to be able to engage in his job and mission again.


40 posted on 01/23/2018 5:53:14 AM PST by cyclotic (Trump tweets are the only news source you can trust.)
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