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To: generally
Why did the DOJ and FBI want to wiretap Carter Page?

Page was a target because he went to Russia. Period. He was targeted AS A SPY under Title I. That allowed them to target EVERYBODY ELSE who had any contact with him. That included Trump, Manafort, Conway, and anyone who had any contact with any of them. By essentially accusing Page of being a spy, they could wiretap the whole lot of them.

5 posted on 02/02/2018 5:48:53 PM PST by Ouderkirk (Life is about ass, you're either covering, hauling, laughing, kicking, kissing, or behaving like one)
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To: Ouderkirk

But the FBI used the Clinton Dossier as their primary justification for spying on Team Trump!


9 posted on 02/02/2018 5:51:59 PM PST by CivilWarBrewing (Get off my back for my usage of CAPS, especially you snowflake males! MAN UP!)
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To: Ouderkirk

Good answer on the real reason. I am curious about what the stated reason was in the memo. Obviously your reason is correct, but they couldn’t get a warrant with that on it.


18 posted on 02/02/2018 5:55:47 PM PST by generally ( Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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Ouderkirk...... let’s assume a crapload of unmasking daily updates were published in the Presidential daily briefings but one decoded all the whos being referenced in the PDBs. They could never be made public, so what sort of court/trial would handle the suits of the unmaskees being discussed everyday for a year or more? How can you prove you were being discussed if the evidence is above top secret?


33 posted on 02/02/2018 6:06:10 PM PST by txhurl (Banana Republicans, as far as the eye can see)
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To: Ouderkirk
Page was a target because he went to Russia. Period. He was targeted AS A SPY under Title I. That allowed them to target EVERYBODY ELSE who had any contact with him. That included Trump, Manafort, Conway, and anyone who had any contact with any of them. By essentially accusing Page of being a spy, they could wiretap the whole lot of them.

Exactly right. The Carter page warrant allowed wiretapping the entire Trump Tower and Trump campaign. Just like Trump claimed they did.

Now take it one step further, and realize that every US citizen, except Carter Page caught on an intercept, was supposed to be "masked", i.e. their identity was to be hidden.

Next think back to the big "unmasking" issue. In the final months of the Odunghole administration, there were way too many requests, always fulfilled, for "unmasking" of US citizens. This was how the RATs were watching Trump. And, even without the unmasking, they knew exactly what was said, even if they had to wait to find out who said it.

91 posted on 02/02/2018 9:29:49 PM PST by CurlyDave
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