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Yeah, I know. There are a lot of folks who (by my reading) believe that the second amendment IS the CCW authorization. Unledss we've recently (past 50 years) redefined INFRINGED. And we all know progressives have done so and the sheep just move right along in the name of public safety.
1 posted on 03/07/2018 6:48:52 AM PST by rktman
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The 14th Amendment applies applies the federal BOR to the states so the National Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act is constitutional.

Case closed.


2 posted on 03/07/2018 6:53:35 AM PST by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Forever))
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“The government is supposed to work for us, not against us.”

1. Who does he mean by “us”?

2. That goes for State and local government too.

3. “To secure these rights, governments are instituted among men.”


5 posted on 03/07/2018 7:15:57 AM PST by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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If the Federal Government can pass a law saying that CCW permits must be honored in all states then what is to stop them from saying that those CCW permits must have 40 hours of training? Or can only be issued to those above a certain age? Or other requirements?

CCW is a state issue. New York doesn't have reciprocity with your state? Then don't carry there. Don't feel safe in New York without a sidearm? Then don't go. Simple as that.

6 posted on 03/07/2018 7:18:24 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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Under Concealed Carry Reciprocity, state gun laws would be rendered null and void,

No, I suppose a state could still keep their own subjects disarmed.

... as anyone with a concealed carry permit in one state would be able to travel across state lines while armed.

Oh, the horror.

11 posted on 03/07/2018 7:48:08 AM PST by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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States in which same sex marriage is illegal must still recognize same sex marriage licenses from states where it is legal.

States in which concealed carry is illegal should therefore recognize concealed carry licenses from states where it is legal.

Simple.

14 posted on 03/07/2018 8:00:41 AM PST by sima_yi ( Reporting live from the far North)
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The oath of your elected officials includes the promise to protect the constitution.

So any gun law should result in feds sweeping in to annul it just like they do for any other civil right abuse.


15 posted on 03/07/2018 8:02:59 AM PST by fruser1
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Sorry, the Liberaltarians can “states rights” right up their ass on this issue!

The 2nd amendment doesn’t change when you cross state lines, the author is FOS.


19 posted on 03/07/2018 8:26:00 AM PST by Beagle8U (Nuke the Gay Whales!)
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Does every state have different laws for the first amendment?


26 posted on 03/07/2018 9:38:28 AM PST by US_MilitaryRules (I'm not tired of Winning yet! Please, continue on!)
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“Under Concealed Carry Reciprocity, state gun laws would be rendered null and void, as anyone with a concealed carry permit in one state would be able to travel across state lines while armed.”


The rights guaranteed (not granted, mind you, GUARANTEED) by the Constitution and any of its amendments are meaningless if they don’t apply EVERYWHERE in the United States. That’s what these libertarians don’t understand. Self-rule at the local level is just fine in concept...but what would they say if some state (let’s use California as an example) passed a law that restricted freedom of speech or assembly for those who could not obtain the approval of a state commission on derogatory speech (which is anything that doesn’t agree with the Leftist dogma of that week)? They’d scream like stuck pigs (and rightly so, I might add). So, why can’t they be logically consistent and do the same for the rights guaranteed by the 2nd Amendment?


27 posted on 03/07/2018 9:40:39 AM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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There are a lot of folks who (by my reading) believe that the second amendment IS the CCW authorization. Unledss we've recently (past 50 years) redefined INFRINGED.

Someone with standing needs to test this in the courts.

28 posted on 03/07/2018 9:42:33 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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By the way, from now on I am referring to semi-auto firearms, like a typical rifle before OR after a Bumpfire stock is installed, as a single-shot rifle, since one single trigger pull = one single shot. FULL autos would be multi-shot. Beat’em at their word games!


32 posted on 03/07/2018 10:53:00 AM PST by 2harddrive
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For libertarians, this bill is not a matter of our Second Amendment right; rather, it's a matter of federal overreach. Under Concealed Carry Reciprocity, state gun laws would be rendered null and void, as anyone with a concealed carry permit in one state would be able to travel across state lines while armed.

ANY requirement by federal, state or local law for ANY licensing or permit is a clear infringement upon the rights recognized in the second amendment.

35 posted on 03/07/2018 2:00:14 PM PST by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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