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1 posted on 03/11/2018 9:08:19 PM PDT by Kaslin
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Let’s talk terrain and numbers. Remember the famous red v. blue voting map? There is a lot of red, and in the interior the few blue splotches are all cities like Las Vegas or Denver. That is a lot of territory for a counter-insurgent force to control, and this is critical. The red is where the food is grown, the oil pumped, and through which everything is transported. And that red space is filled with millions of American citizens with small arms, a fairly large percentage of whom have military training.

Everything that keeps the country alive runs through red...

2 posted on 03/11/2018 9:18:41 PM PDT by GOPJ (Democrats want to get rid of ICE to 'protect' illegals & to Hell with Americans. - SunkenCiv)
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Red Americans are Communist-Fascists. I’m a Conservative Blue, not a Commie Red. I cringe when I see intelligent people using the Orwellian media newspeak relabeling. It distracts badly in such an article. Down with the real REDS !


3 posted on 03/11/2018 9:20:09 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj ("It's Slappin' Time !")
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It is so easy to shut down food, electricity, fuel and water to cities, the leftist crazies wouldn't stand a chance.

No need to bother shooting them when you can starve and freeze them out.

4 posted on 03/11/2018 9:23:24 PM PDT by Mogger
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The Left has been successful slow-boiling the frog for many decades, but lately they’ve gotten cocky and impatient, and the frog is onto them. Quick, get the lid!


6 posted on 03/11/2018 9:28:54 PM PDT by rightwingcrazy
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You wouldn’t need a single gun to defeat the Democrats in either scenario. Just turn off (or, as resistance, disable or destroy) the EBT system and inside of 5 days every Democratic area would be brought to its knees by their own feral populations.


7 posted on 03/11/2018 9:29:58 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Number of arrested coup conspirators to date: 0)
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They don’t serve in the combat arms in the military if they serve at all...

They chop off their penises...

They dislike guns and do not have much background in them...

They really have no skills that lend themselves to anything outside a nice day outside Manhattan or DC...

They aren’t nice people and do not have the ability to cooperate with like minded friends...

They have never used 4x4 except possibly on a snowy road on the way to starbucks, and they sucked at it.

They don’t hunt, fish, or grow anything except pot...

They are the enemies of freedom and hate Jesus and our founders. Enemies of freedom ALWAYS lose. Nazis, Bolsheviks, Khmer Rouge, Jap militarists, Redcoats, Comanches, Klansmen, etc. Bad guys always lose in the end...always.


8 posted on 03/11/2018 9:30:32 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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Another factor.. The cities, once cut off from supplies, will destroy themselves from inside as the liberal underclass mobs start rioting. They have been bred and raised for one purpose, to vote democrat in elections. They have no other use, not even as canon fodder.


13 posted on 03/11/2018 9:41:46 PM PDT by ArtDodger
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When you break it down below the State level, there’s a lot of purple. States turned Red or Blue based on small percentages, for the most part.

It won’t be State against State, it’ll be neighborhood against neighborhood. Some on this forum call for secession.

And it might turn into something like the “Troubles” in Ireland.

Also, at the start of CW I, many thought it was going to be a short romp, that they’d win easily and quickly...many on both sides thought that.


14 posted on 03/11/2018 9:42:19 PM PDT by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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A lot of wars happen when both sides think they will win.

Some wars happen because of pure aggression by one side. The other has no choice: fight or die.

In the First U.S. Civil war, both sides thought they would win and had significant advantages.

It ended with horrible losses for both sides, but the South was mostly destroyed. The North used a lot of immigrant soldiers to take down the South, and the Northern elite arranged things so they suffered relatively little.

I like Kurt, but he ignores the potential for outside militaries to intervene.

Do you think Obama or successors would have any compunction on calling for NATO or Chinese “peacekeepers” to pacify U.S. rural areas?

There would be lots of Mexicans willing to fill ranks in the U.S. Army and Marines, if it came to that, for generous benefits and a promise of a piece of rural America confiscated from conservative “rebels”.

It would be no cake walk. It would be horrible and deadly. Millions would die.

It is our job to convince others, especially the Left, that this is so.


20 posted on 03/11/2018 10:00:18 PM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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thanks for posting, Kaslin !

Ping to CW II article in Townhall.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3639015/posts?page=1#1


26 posted on 03/11/2018 10:19:21 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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41 posted on 03/11/2018 11:35:26 PM PDT by wjcsux (The hyperventilating of the left means we are winning! (Tagline courtesy of Laz.))
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Good article except the authors confusion over what is "civil war" and what is "revolution"...

The hitlary (or any other communist) election scenario won't result in the 2nd civil war...It will result in the 2nd revolution, the overthrow of a dictatorial government as specified by the Founding Fathers...

"...But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."

42 posted on 03/11/2018 11:35:50 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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Kind of impossible to game these situations out since there are a million different ways they could go.

I can’t remember seeing the last first world civil war though. I see plenty of civil unrest, but it just tends to flare up and then flame out. The left is making the pretty safe calculation that their gradual, steady intrusions into your liberty will never be enough all at once to get people to leave their comfortable lifestyles behind to risk getting killed. People learn to cope, and I know that’s what the left banking on.


43 posted on 03/11/2018 11:42:51 PM PDT by MountainWalker
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Great read

Thanks for posting


47 posted on 03/12/2018 1:15:45 AM PDT by redinIllinois (Pro-life, accountant, gun-totin' Grandma's​ - multi issue voterp it)
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"Why Democrats Would Lose the Second Civil War, Too"

Because of their pride and lack of honest perception of the world around them.


51 posted on 03/12/2018 2:15:32 AM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." --Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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Great article to back up what Schlichter is writing about.

http://ncrenegade.com/editorial/matt-bracken-when-the-music-stops-how-americas-cities-may-explode-in-violence/


54 posted on 03/12/2018 2:50:07 AM PDT by qaz123
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The New Confederacy will consist of California, Illinois, and Massachusetts, New York, Connecticut, New Jersey and Maryland. And they will try very hard, perhaps with Chinese assistance, to have Hawaii and the naval facilities at Pearl Harbor.

They will not present a cause for war, as did South Carolina in 1861.

They will strangle transoceanic trade with the control of San Diego, San Pedro, Long Beach, San Francisco, Chicago, New York, Boston, and Baltimore. They will disrupt transcontinental railroad traffic. And it is they, not us, who will put stealthy guerrillas into the field raiding farms in the midwest, the Pacific Northwest, Pennsylvania, Virginia, and Northern New England. Their Django Unchained revenge squads will be all over until they are wiped out.

All the CW II chatter here presumes an active guerrilla army (us) against a standing army (them). It’s much more likely that the Poz Confederacy will be fielding the guerrillas against an American military which will be immobilized by the political crisis that sets all this off, and they with control of all our important ports and railheads.

It is not going to be pretty.

None of this will happen if the California crisis can be resolved politically. But this is now unlikely, in my opinion.


57 posted on 03/12/2018 3:10:37 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Single payer is coming. Which kind do you like?)
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66 posted on 03/12/2018 3:56:10 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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bump


70 posted on 03/12/2018 4:52:17 AM PDT by foreverfree
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Actually this article is BS. If a state secedes vi referendum then the WHOLE state is under new authority. The citizens of the new country can be drafted, have the right to vote, and will have rights under that new countries constitution. They may not like it but that is tough sh!t. All of this bellicose insurgent talk is crap. If CA were to vote on secession and become an independent country there would be no rebellion inside of CA. Nobody is going to throw away their property and rights like that and take to the ills with their AR-15. LOL Sorry this is poppycock.


71 posted on 03/12/2018 5:11:45 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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