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To Hell With California? Hell No!
Townhall.com ^ | March 13, 2018 | Arthur Schaper

Posted on 03/13/2018 6:53:40 AM PDT by Kaslin

Over the weekend, I was invited to attend and speak to the Patriots Movement Arizona MAGA Unity Rally in Phoenix, Arizona. Even though the capital of the Grand Canyon State is blue (same holds true for almost every capital in the country), Arizona is a red state, and it sure felt like one. Residents can open carry and concealed carry their firearms in most places. The gas is so much cheaper, as is the fast-food. Wherever I went, Trump supporters raved and rallied with us. Even in the capital, represented by two Congressional Democrats for the majority of the city, Trump supporters gave us thumbs-up and showed their support. The Arizona Patriots welcomed us freedom fighters with open arms.

At the rally, a number of guest speakers called out the rampant liberal lunacy throttling my home, the formerly Golden State of California. I heard one refrain a number of times: “Make California American Again.” I don’t like hearing that, and I reminded the audience at the rally (I was the last speaker) that our state has a large contingent of Trump-supporting pro-American patriots. Not only that, but the vast majority of residents are outraged with the rampant lawlessness defining the current political class—on both sides of the aisle.

To add insult to injury, I read Derek Hunter’s article “To Hell with California.” Really? I say “Hell no” to that. If elected officials had embraced the attitude of “Let erring sisters go in peace” during the (First?) American Civil War, the internecine destruction which had assault federal law and endangered the public trust in 1860 would have continued after the Southern states seceded. Lawlessness must be countered, not ignored and accommodated. 

Moreover, the Democratic Party has ruined California, but not Californians like me. Even if we can’t save our state (for the short-term), our fight is encouraging and galvanizing conservatives all over the country to fight back. Reminder: 4.5 million Californians voted for President Trump in Election 2016’s general election. Hillary Clinton won by a wider margin than Obama, it seems, because of massive voter fraud. Proof? I have friends whose children have moved out of the house—and the state!—but the kids are still getting mail-in ballots! A San Pedro, CA apartment received 80 ballots in 2016. The LA County Registrar of Voters credited that to “an error” which would be corrected. Sure. The Election Integrity Projected sued the state over voter turnouts in 11 counties which exceeded the actual population of eligible voters. The official turnout registered 111% in Los Angeles County, but some estimates suggest as much as 140%! This is outrageous. We don’t have elections in California. We have Democratic dictatorship, folks, where the votes are not as important as the people and the political machines counting them.

The problem isn’t the state, but the Democrats along with the greedy rapacious public sector union lobby, the welfare queens, and let's not forget the illegal aliens who are over running, invading our state. Hunter has the wrong attitude about California, even if he was only kidding. Still, his biting hatred for the disgusting communism overrunning the state of California is not original with him. John Stossel suggested that California should secede, and at least three groups have sought to place a #Calexit initiative on the ballot. Two other initiatives want to create a “New California” or split the state up into three parts.

To all you cynics out there, California is worth fighting for, and President Trump is proving that. California was and still is the true heartbeat of the Trump movement. Before Trump had declared his candidacy, patriots lined up outside of Murrieta in 2014 and turned away the buses still filled with illegal aliens. Breitbart News is based in California, which helped showcase the awful, unconscionable murder of Kate Steinle in sanctuary city San Francisco. Stephen Miller, the outspoken policy advisor on illegal immigration, comes from the People’s Republic of Santa Monica, and many of the conservative policy wonks making the case for protecting our borders and our culture learned from the best at Claremont-McKenna college … in California.

Let us also not forget that to this day, Californians have exposed treasonous DACA meetings hosted by our elected officials, and we have shut down lawless Attorney General Xavier Becerra three times. From 15 Californians who stood up against 25,000 George Soros puppets at LAX airport just nine days after Trump’s inauguration, Californians across the state are now fighting back, reminding the country that we are Americans who love our country, but definitely do not trust our government. There are millions of citizens in California who are still Americans, regardless of their political affiliation. 

Secession and derision are not the answer to wayward, communistic California. What is needed now more than ever is enforcement of all federal laws, including the immigration laws. Last year, I wrote that Attorney General Jeff Sessions needed to intervene in California. Finally, he and the rest of the federal government are starting to weigh in. AG Becerra’s unending lawsuits have been smacked down. One federal district court has upheld the Trump administration’s power to withhold federal grants to sanctuary state California. The lawsuits against the state are great, too. But we need arrests. We need Xavier Becerra, Gavin Newsom, Jerry Brown, and every other pro-illegal alien California politician behind bars.

Following Attorney General Sessions’ announcement to sue California in federal court, I commented to the local news that we need more than just lawsuits. We also need the National Guard to step in. With Trump’s upcoming visit to the border wall, they just might have to. Either way, critics may chant that California is a lost cause turning into an irredeemable hell, but there are millions of angels within the Golden State already fighting back. We are going to go everywhere we can in our state and raise heaven!



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; US: California
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1 posted on 03/13/2018 6:53:40 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

If California wants to succeed they will have their own civil war with us 15 million Red State Conservatives who want to be split from the 25 million LA and Bay Area Socialists

Leftist California would be fighting 2 wars. One against us Red Staters and One against greater America. They Can Not win this fight.


2 posted on 03/13/2018 7:20:14 AM PDT by jcon40 (The other post before yours really nails it for me. I have been a DOithS / PC guy forever and alway)
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To: Kaslin

Mr. President, help Make California Great Again.

Please.


3 posted on 03/13/2018 7:24:29 AM PDT by thecodont
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To: jcon40

Democrats in the other 49 states will never let California secede from the union.


4 posted on 03/13/2018 7:27:54 AM PDT by libertylover (Kurt Schlicter: "They wonder why they got Trump. They are why they got Trump")
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To: libertylover

We need to expel the entire state of CA from the union.


5 posted on 03/13/2018 7:28:57 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: central_va
We need to expel the entire state of CA from the union.

Careful there...a couple more elections like the last few we've suffered through in VA and soon they'll be saying that about us!

6 posted on 03/13/2018 7:34:55 AM PDT by pgkdan (The Silent Majority STILL Stands With TRUMP!)
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To: central_va
We need to expel the entire state of CA from the union.

For one, it won't happen because to do so would require a change to the Constitution with the normal 2/3 or 3/4 ratification rules and the deep blue states would never allow it because they'd never win a presidential race again.

Also, it's a case of being careful what you ask for because it wouldn't be just California, it would also be Oregon, Washington, and Hawaii, all deep blue states. Let them all go, fine, but that cuts off the USA from the Pacific Ocean, and that's something to think about.

7 posted on 03/13/2018 7:37:30 AM PDT by libertylover (Kurt Schlicter: "They wonder why they got Trump. They are why they got Trump")
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To: pgkdan

Up until George W. Bush was President, Virginia was low crime, Republican and English speaking.


8 posted on 03/13/2018 7:38:08 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Kaslin
We need Xavier Becerra, Gavin Newsom, Jerry Brown, and every other pro-illegal alien California politician behind bars.

Cute little fantasy. Nobody in the Federal government is going to do that. Too big to jail. People who go against people this powerful end up like Seth Rich and Andrew Brietbart.

9 posted on 03/13/2018 7:43:53 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Enjoy the decline of the American empire.)
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To: libertylover
Let them all go, fine, but that cuts off the USA from the Pacific Ocean, and that's something to think about.

You mean Chinese junk would have to float a few days longer. Boo hoo.

10 posted on 03/13/2018 7:48:08 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: Kaslin
The people of kalifornia have put moonbeam brown, piglosi, aunty maxine and a host of other liberal loonies in power.

That was a choice they made. I don't see it as the responsibility of the other 49 to bail them out of the mess they have created.

11 posted on 03/13/2018 7:53:42 AM PDT by pfflier
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To: jcon40

The California rebellion is the most serious crisis the US has faced since 1932, and perhaps since 1860.

Right now, California asserts the twin rights of interposition and nullification. The reason these have not been done away with permanently by the tides of history is because they are rooted in Amendments IX and X to the 1788 Constitution.

The reason interposition and nullification are not every day actions is that, when the People of a State, acting through their representatives, try to exercise their (theoretical) rights, they bump up against the rights of the People of the united States, who have huge financial, political, military and moral interests which the People of California now wish to impose upon. That a bunch of Mexican invaders think they could kick the US Navy out of San Diego and replace it with the PLA Navy (for example) is something we obviously could not permit.

So, what’s the way forward? There are several possibilities:

1) The Supreme Court could take one or two Ninth/Tenth Amendment cases and rule, as they have never done before, that the People of the several States are free to rule themselves as they see fit. This is quite unlikely, but several justices will want to “free California”, so it’s a possibility.

2) California sues the US to stop interference with interposition and nullification, and loses, and then submits.

3) California sues the US to stop interference with interposition and nullification, and loses, and declares independence.

3a) California negotiates a treaty with the 49 united States that is a satisfactory resolution of our financial, political, military, and moral interests (which seems impossible).

3b) California seizes our post offices, post roads, arsenals, dockyards, magazines and other needful buildings, claiming right to be enforced by the Laws of War.

3b1) California’s independence is recognized by the UN General Assembly (a certainty), which calls upon the members of the Security Council to deploy armed forces to sustain California.

3b2) A Security Council resolution permitting armed intervention passes but is vetoed by the US (also a certainty)

4) And the world waits on China.


12 posted on 03/13/2018 7:55:51 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Single payer is coming. Which kind do you like?)
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To: libertylover

Excellent point !

California succeeding would dilute the Democratic vote across the nation.

Oh so many possibilities to ponder

The heart of the issue is still Urban vs Rural and the anger one group tries to impose on the other through governance.

“One size fits all” rules and regs doesn’t seem to fit living in a city vs the country. Something has to eventually give.


13 posted on 03/13/2018 8:06:08 AM PDT by jcon40 (The other post before yours really nails it for me. I have been a DOithS / PC guy forever and alway)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Bush destroyed California due to his cheap labor policies.


14 posted on 03/13/2018 8:17:37 AM PDT by crusher2013
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To: thecodont
As a Deplorable who is familar with blue/Purple states, I can attest to the fact that there are LOTS of good, normal people trapped in those states.

Sometimes, you have to cut off the pinky to save the hand. In this case, I would not recommend ditching California (Washington, D.C. is a goner though).

The fact is, California went Democrat for five straight elections during the Depression and Truman. It flipped Republican for three elections, went Dem for Johnson, then went back to Republican for SIX straight elections. Since Clinton, California has been blue.

So yes...it doesn't look pretty and I'm not suggesting that she may flip Red this coming election. But I wouldn't count California out just yet.

Indeed, my guess is Trump has the opposition so wigged out, that his recent entry into California probably has people worried that he sees something in his internal polling that other people don't see yet.

But what do I know. There is no other state that went Dem since Clinton that could go Republican....except Pennsylvania...

15 posted on 03/13/2018 8:20:05 AM PDT by DoodleBob
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To: Jim Noble

“...if we can’t save our state...”.....

Saving California would be nice BUT, driving out the demodummies would only corrupt/tear down the rest of the states the liberals “migrate” to. I witnessed that very thing while living in Colorado Springs. In the late 70’s, early 80’s a massive influx as people from Cal. moved into Colorado. Unfortunately for Colo., those who migrated brought their “baggage” (political issues) with them. Colorado has never been the same since. Nothing different than “foreigners” migrating to the U.S. and wanting to change it to what they were fleeing. Never say it can’t or won’t happen.


16 posted on 03/13/2018 8:21:53 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: Kaslin

“If elected officials had embraced the attitude of “Let erring sisters go in peace” during the (First?) American Civil War, the internecine destruction which had assault federal law and endangered the public trust in 1860 would have continued after the Southern states seceded. Lawlessness must be countered, not ignored and accommodated. “

Nice, valiant stab at defending his state. I’d give him an A for effort. However, I bitterly resent comparisons of the Jerry Brown movements of the world to the Old South. Rather I’d say that the author- like the south-is trying to break away from the filthy oppression of Brown as the south was from Lincoln.


17 posted on 03/13/2018 8:23:27 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: Jim Noble

Interesting thoughts.

I would still see a fight from Red State California to be excluded from the coastal idiocy.

Another possible legal solution is to create a 3 State split through a vote in California, then Congress

1 LA,
2 the Bay Area
3 the rest of the State

It would create 2 blue states and 1 Red State therefore have a better chance of passing.

The balance of power would remain the same in total Red vs Blue national voting.

The new Red State would be free to farm, store water and generate power as it sees fit.

It is only a point in time before the 2 Blue states left would fail either through lawlessness or the collapse of their economy based mostly on tech (bubble) and their ports which MAGA is currently rearranging.

Bottom line .... Red State California would fight to avoid succeeding with the Blue State idiots ... water, power and food comes from Rural California .... the cities barely have a tree that drops and grows it’s own nut.


18 posted on 03/13/2018 8:27:53 AM PDT by jcon40 (The other post before yours really nails it for me. I have been a DOithS / PC guy forever and alway)
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To: Jim Noble

The problem with Nullification is that it has NEVER been applied in an actual 10th Amendment context!

Previously it was notably over tariffs ... a Power actually delegated to the federal.

So proper Nullification has never been tested at all.

As it could be tested, for example, on grounds that the federal has no delegated power given it for its gun laws to be in effect within the Jurisdiction of a State or to regulate commerce within a State, or to regulate agriculture and manufacturing at all.

Affecting interstate commerce while not being commerce among the several States is STILL not interstate commerce.

These “Nullification” attempts are actually arrogation. We’ve had more than enough arrogation fromthe Supreme Court already.


19 posted on 03/13/2018 8:31:19 AM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: DoodleBob
I consider the morons and traitors who opine such vomit a ‘let them suffer since they elected moonbeam’, or ‘let them secede’ to be intellectually retarded and every bit as un-American as any leftist filth. Worse, they are cowards of the type who would also leave a wounded comrade in battle and run home to mommy; my they rot in hell far away from any true patriots. we were sold out by Republican Bush and his cheap labor cronies, THAT was the camel's nose under the tent; once the floodgates opened patriots were and are outvoted, and yet plenty of the morons who bash the golden state kissed Bush's ass right here and elsewhere.
20 posted on 03/13/2018 8:41:19 AM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, deport all illegals, abolish the DEA, IRS and ATF.)
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