Posted on 03/24/2018 11:02:05 PM PDT by aquila48
perhaps Trump got dealt a bad hand and played the cards the best he could
I agree with her that, although Trump should not have signed it, the majority of the fault for it goes to Republicans in Congress.
Yup. I seriously believe that Trump is convinced there is a very big, viable threat to the United States, and his obsession to protect this country put him in a situation where there was no wiggle room in the defense appropriations. Remember, he also is asking for line item veto which would have allowed him to strike the pork. I am not necessarily defending him, but attempting to put this mess into perspective.
Thanks for your calm and logical analysis.
I’m a little weary of all the hyperventilating on these threads.
Government spending must be reined in — but that’s a battle for another day. Trump is all about timing and I trust him on this.
Ever since Trump announced, there as been an all out attack on him and his family. In spite of all the attempted efforts to take him down, he has survived. I just wonder how many assassination attempts have been foiled?
In spite of all the resistance from even the Republicans, he has delivered a lot of wins:
TRUMP WINS FOR USA
1. TPP OUT
2. PARIS CLIMATE ACCORDS-OUT
3. JOBS UP /UNEMPLOYMENT DOWN
4. TAX CUTS BUSINESS AND WORKERS
5. PEDO ARRESTS ARE UP
6. MS13 ROUNDED UP
7. ILLEGALS INVADING DOWN
8. COMEY, MCCABE OTHERS REMOVED
9. EX ORDER-SEIZE ASSETS HUMAN TRAFFICERS
10. SAUDI CRACKDOWN -DOPEY FUNDING ETC.
11. N. KOREA THREAT DOWN IN PROCESS OF RESOLUTION
12. CHINA-IN PROCESS OF RESOLUTION
13. NAFTA IN PROCESS OF RESOLUTION
14. EX ORDER MILITARY TRIBUNALS- FOUNDATION LAID
15. GITMO EXPANSION-DOLLARS ALLOCATED PLANS IN PROCESS
16. NATO PAYING MORE
17. CUT FUNDING TO PAKISTAN
18. DEMS EXPOSED FOR ATTEMPT TO FRAME TRUMP
19. MILITARY FUNDING ACHEIVED
20. DEM FAKE CONCERN FOR DACA EXPOSED
21. KEYSTONE PIPELINE DONE
22. COAL IS BACK
23. STEEL INDUSTRY PROTECTION
24. MORE AND MORE PEOPLE BECOME AWARE OF HIDDEN HISTORY
(MEGA RED PILLS)
25. FOOD STAMP USAGE DOWN BY MILLIONS
26. TRANSGENDER MILITARY BAN
27. FUNDING OF THE MILITARY TO UNDO OBAMA DAMAGE
So don’t be a sunshine patriot. Don’t abandon your leader if the enemy scores a hit. Giving up ensures defeat is permanent and deadly to freedom.
Prayers up for our country and President DJT. May the Lord help him every day to drain the swamp.
Don’t be an ignorant twit - they knew exactly what he wanted and they worked with the dems to betray him - a little reality would stop all the “He’s President, he could’ve done it all if he wanted to” ignorance crap so many seem to be gobbling up.
Trump is the POTUS, he should have read it. He signed the damned thing betraying many in his base. No, wall, except for the middle east, no border security, planned parenthood, support for sanctuary cities, Egyptian students, global warming and on and on. He should have gone to the American people with a big board describing the outrageous spending and told Congress to get back in session and do the right thing. Big deal if the government got shut down. The people would have supported him.
Trump just Trumped all the repiubies a##es including the despicable Ryan and McConnell. He went along with thier bill and they just signed their farewell ticket with the voters in 2018. In the art of the deal you have to sometime reallocate monies to get certain jobs done, like the wall
Wow....thank you Sargon! Eloquent and rational! I neede to hear this
President Donald is way better then president Hillary.
Does any one really think Ted, Jeb, or Carly, and the rest would have been better?
President Donald Trump LOVES Our country.
He has been stomped on and beat down sense day one.
We have never seen anything like it before.
I for one am not going to jump on the media ban wagon.
For the first time in my life I love my President.
ITEM---The President designated as an "emergency requirement" ALL funding so designated by the Congress in the Act pursuant to section 251(b)(2)(A) of the Balanced Budget and Emergency Deficit Control Act of 1985, for the accounts referenced in section 7058(d) (Excerpt) Read more at twitter.com ...
ITEM --- Trump has basically told the House....."See ya in court!"
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The details (hat tip John Salisbury):
1. Congress allocates money. The President spends the allocated money.
2. Once Congress allocates money, their job is oversight. They don't spend the money and have no say HOW it gets spent.
3. Once the President is given the money, he has a number of choices in spending it....some of the money is fungible and some isn't. 4. By Trump declaring a Human Rights Emergency AND has notified Congress that he's invoking the Balanced Budget and Emergency Deficit Control Act of 1985, this opens up new spending options. 6. President Trump has just communicated that he has the authority to NOT spend any funds he doesn't deem necessary and will return them to the US Treasury. For example: funds the House allocated for Planned Parenthood? Trump can simply not allocate the funds
7. Trump's declarations also make some funds fungible. For instance if he determines that building a Wall on the Southern Border is a defense against Human Trafficking? He can move funds from anywhere else in the Defense Dept Allocation & simply build the Wall.
8. Congress is powerless to stop cash reallocations AND cannot stop the DOD from taking measures under a presidential-declared Emergency.
9. Despite the House's strict language about the Border Wall, it is outweighed by Trump's declaration of a State of Emergency.
10. Amen
Those who tantrum and flounce out the door at the first hint they arent going to get their way are, a. behaving like democrats, and b. never read the Art of the Deal.
This proves congress and the Democrats are an easy mark.
Trump rolled them but good.
Balanced Budget and Emergency Deficit Control Act of 1985.
He just took control of the money.
Great comment, and also on #9, re the strict language on the border wall, note that language only related specifically to the funds Congress allocated for extending and repairing the border “fence”, and does not in any way impede Trump from using DOD funds to build any kind of wall that he wants.
So basically, if he builds it to stop immigration, with the side benefit of stopping drugs and terror, he has to use the money Congress allocated for that, and he is limited.
But if he builds it to stop drugs and terror (a legitimate national defense objective), with the side benefit of stopping illegal immigration, then he gets to tap into the massive DOD funds that Congress just provided to him, and as CIC over the military he has NO limits.
I can’t wait to hear that grinding and gnashing of teeth by Schumer and Pelosi when they realize that they’ve been outmaneuvered by Trump on the wall!
The weasels who wear R jerseys MUST be Cantorized.
Trump has to stop endorsing Swamp Creatures.
We have to ignore his endorsements when he does.
Republicans threw Trump under the Obamabus.
Ryan and McConnel ARE weak. I cant disagree with you there.
Beautiful summation.......loving every wise word of it.
I cant wait to hear that grinding and gnashing of teeth by Schumer and Pelosi when they realize that theyve been outmaneuvered by Trump on the wall!
I knew Chuckie would come to regret his asinine gloating when Trump signed porkulous.
Well it appears Trump is about to take this lemon and make lemonade. He’s invoked that 1985 emergency and balanced budget act. So now he can take some money from the DOD funds to build the wall due to national security reasons and can refuse to spend any of the money he sees fit and simply return it to Congress. He’s just smarter than Ryan and McConnell.
Making a stand on principle and to ,oppose baby killing and getting overridden is honorable not weakness. I was the first one here to preach about arresting traitors for the coup d’tat. I don’t need a primer on democrats who should be in prison or executed. Thank you very much A watching sometimes Trumper.
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