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Why Trump skipping Latin America matters
Axios ^ | 4/10/18 | Dave Lawler

Posted on 04/10/2018 8:58:22 AM PDT by DoodleDawg

The Summit of the Americas this Friday and Saturday in Peru was to be the centerpiece of President Trump's first visit to Latin America, and the first time he met many of the region's leaders. Now, Trump has suddenly announced he won't be attending after all — he's staying in D.C. to focus on Syria and sending Vice President Pence in his stead.

Why it matters: Jason Marczak, director of the Atlantic Council's Latin America Center, says Trump's decision is a "significant blow" to the chances of improving relations with the region and with those leaders, many of whom are wondering what "America first" means for them. "He's missing an opportunity to establish a rapport" with key strategic and economic partners, while "ceding an opportunity to the Chinese," Marczak says.

(Excerpt) Read more at axios.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; hispanics; latinamerica; southamerica; trump
I think this is a short-sighted decision on the part of the President. The U.S. is losing influence in South America and China is gaining. We may wake up one day and find out they have a lock on the continent.

I don't see where Syria is more important than our own backyard.

1 posted on 04/10/2018 8:58:22 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

China can have it.


2 posted on 04/10/2018 8:59:44 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: DoodleDawg

The deep state coup is staging an advance. Best to stick close to home.


3 posted on 04/10/2018 9:00:07 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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The deep state coup is staging an advance. Best to stick close to home.

Yep, remember Gorby was on vacation in 1991, when the coup happened.

4 posted on 04/10/2018 9:01:23 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: DoodleDawg

Trump is popular in Colombia....I know. Just spent 4 months here.


5 posted on 04/10/2018 9:02:35 AM PDT by rrrod (just an old guy with a gun in his pocket)
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To: DoodleDawg

Trump needs to stay to beat-back the deep state who are trying to involve him in war.


6 posted on 04/10/2018 9:03:03 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: DoodleDawg

There is more to this than meets the eye. I suspect that the President caught wind of massive (state-sponsored?), ugly protests, perhaps with chaotic violence. Also, the possibility exists that several of the leaders of LatAm were conspiring to do speeches excoriating him.

Not sure, but I think so.


7 posted on 04/10/2018 9:03:44 AM PDT by Migraine ((A smartass who is right can be downright funny. A smartass who is wrong is just a smartass.))
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To: Migraine

Castro will be there.The South must choose.


8 posted on 04/10/2018 9:05:11 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: DoodleDawg

Axios: Washington (com)Post with a fancy Greek name.


9 posted on 04/10/2018 9:29:13 AM PDT by LIConFem (I will no longer accept the things I cannot change. it's time to change the things I cannot accept.)
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To: LIConFem
Axios: Washington (com)Post with a fancy Greek name.

So where is the article wrong? Trump is going to the summit? China's influence isn't growing in South America? An opportunity to get to know South American leaders isn't a good thing? What?

10 posted on 04/10/2018 9:50:00 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Migraine
There is more to this than meets the eye. I suspect that the President caught wind of massive (state-sponsored?), ugly protests, perhaps with chaotic violence. Also, the possibility exists that several of the leaders of LatAm were conspiring to do speeches excoriating him.

If that's his fear then Trump should stay in D.C. and never travel anywhere. But I suspect the President is more courageous than that.

11 posted on 04/10/2018 9:51:15 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

Trump is being ill advised to skip this.

Brazil, Argentina and Chile are all three turning rightward, now, and to Latin America Trump staying away does not seem to care a damn about that.

Seriously, as we did not and were not going to have an overnight military reaction vis-a-vis Syria, waiting awhile longer is neither a diplomatic or security hazard.


12 posted on 04/10/2018 9:54:49 AM PDT by Wuli
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Well, reading the perverted info in Axios is a good way to get a perverted view of the facts.
Obviously, Trump isn’t going because the time isn’t right to go. No good deals to make.

Yeah, it is an important area that has been woefully disregarded.
But “doing something” is not the same as “doing what’s good”.


13 posted on 04/10/2018 9:55:20 AM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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Well, reading the perverted info in Axios is a good way to get a perverted view of the facts. Obviously, Trump isn’t going because the time isn’t right to go. No good deals to make.

When is the time right? After China has the continent locked up?

14 posted on 04/10/2018 9:58:15 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

I was commenting on the veracity of the source, not the article’s contents — and I firmly believe that the source’s trustworthiness should always be taken into account. But I see your point... perhaps my post would have been more appropriate on a thread devoted to media issues.


15 posted on 04/10/2018 10:08:36 AM PDT by LIConFem (I will no longer accept the things I cannot change. it's time to change the things I cannot accept.)
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To: DoodleDawg

There’s a lot going on or he wouldn’t have even considered going.
I guess that has to come to fruition.

Real negotiations are more important than PR events.


16 posted on 04/10/2018 10:11:25 AM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: DoodleDawg
If that's his fear then Trump should stay in D.C. and never travel anywhere. But I suspect the President is more courageous than that.

Thanks for your condescending response. You gave an extreme interpretation of what I was implying. Then you made an extreme conclusion of what that would mean ("Trump should stay in DC and never travel").

The real meaning of what I wrote is that, perhaps, the secret service has determined that some intel from the area indicates that the local gendarmes are neither capable of, nor willing to, prevent serious trouble.

Nowhere do I express nor imply that Trump is less than courageous. He is the most courageous president I can think of. What I was expressing was that sometimes, prudence dictates what course he should take. Rather than "he should never leave DC", I would rather cast my statement as implying that he should go only when and where his safety and that of his entourage can be assured.

17 posted on 04/10/2018 10:20:38 AM PDT by Migraine ((A smartass who is right can be downright funny. A smartass who is wrong is just a smartass.))
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The real meaning of what I wrote is that, perhaps, the secret service has determined that some intel from the area indicates that the local gendarmes are neither capable of, nor willing to, prevent serious trouble.

When has the Secret Service ever said that they were incapable of protecting the President?

I would rather cast my statement as implying that he should go only when and where his safety and that of his entourage can be assured.

Outside of D.C. and Mar a Lago where would that be? If you're suggesting that Trump will only travel to places where there won't be protests and which his safety is 100% guaranteed then those are about the only two places I can think of. And even then protests are possible.

18 posted on 04/10/2018 10:58:54 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

The Secret Service keeps some things secret.

Anyway, you seem to have this all figured out. It also seems you will continue to gainsay and miscast any statement I make on the matter, so I will leave you to your smugness; enjoy,


19 posted on 04/10/2018 11:10:38 AM PDT by Migraine ((A smartass who is right can be downright funny. A smartass who is wrong is just a smartass.))
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To: LIConFem

Facts are facts. But the discussion doesn’t end there.

During the Cold War, I visited a Soviet exhibit at the Canadian National Exposition. The exhibit had all the attributes of a book store with very low prices. The books, of course, were all Soviet but in English. I bought several, one of which was titled British Foreign Policy in WWII.

It was interesting, if slippery. Since historians around the world pretty much acknowledge the facts of the war, Soviet denial of Allied actions would be hard to maintain.

But the spin Russia put on the events of the war left you in cloud cuckoo land. Every possible negative was emphasized and positive stuff was just left out.

The Soviet book wasn’t lying about the facts, but when they’d finished re-interpreting them, you’d be forgiven for thinking Russia won the war despite the Allies.


20 posted on 04/10/2018 12:26:45 PM PDT by sparklite2 (See more at Sparklite Times)
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