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To: marron
Lots of moving parts. China has a big role to play in dealing with North Korea.

So what? How do you place sanctions on European countries for trading with Iran, which the provisions of Trump's withdrawal from the Iran nuclear deal might mandate, and at the same time promise to help a Chinese company guilty of the same infraction?

12 posted on 05/14/2018 10:52:44 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

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Stop posting leftist talking points, we know which side you’re on.
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15 posted on 05/14/2018 11:07:11 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: DoodleDawg

>guilty of the same infraction

It’s not even the same infraction. ZTE smuggled American technology to Iran and North Korea. After getting caught they claimed it was rogue executives and promised to punish them, but it turned out they rewarded them with huge bonuses instead.

Europe continuing with the Iran treaty isn’t breaking any promise they have made. They just don’t withdraw from the treaty.


24 posted on 05/15/2018 5:33:48 AM PDT by Krosan
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To: DoodleDawg; Zhang Fei
How do you place sanctions on European countries for trading with Iran, which the provisions of Trump's withdrawal from the Iran nuclear deal might mandate, and at the same time promise to help a Chinese company guilty of the same infraction?

Are these Euros helping us with North Korea?

I get what you're saying, but as I say, there are a lot of moving parts. For one, Trump hasn't actually done anything to help ZTE, he just told Xi he'd look into it. This kicks the rock down the road past the meeting in Singapore. China is in position to help us or mess us up in Korea, so this stalls them. Secondly, this leaves on the table whatever our complaints are with ZTE, to tell them sure, you can come back into the US market, just resolve these two tiny, little, unimportant issues and you can come back, no problem. We'll talk about it more... after we get past Singapore.

After Singapore, its possible that we'll have our own direct line to Pyongyang, and China will have a lot less leverage there, then.

And then, part of any negotiation is throwing your counterpart a bone in order to get the bigger issue resolved. He didn't take any tariffs off or even offer to do it. We're still pushing back in the South China Sea. We're still pushing to get markets open to our products, and he's now shown he has no problem shutting down entire Chinese factories to do it.

He is giving breaks on tariffs to some countries while not China. Now we're getting ready to push hard on Iran sanctions. He is making it plain to Euros and Chinese alike that he is the one they have to deal with.

I see this as 3D chess. The Chinese are good at that, but so is Trump. So for the moment I'm giving him benefit of the doubt. If Singapore goes well, it will make things a lot easier with Iran, we don't want to be rattling sabers in two theaters at the same time, that's for sure.

26 posted on 05/15/2018 11:11:45 AM PDT by marron
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