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In the 1960's Democrats began to gerrymander like mad to create 'minority-majority' districts where blacks could be elected.

Now Democrats are complaining about the gerrymandered 'ghettos' Democrats created.

1 posted on 06/17/2018 4:44:26 PM PDT by yesthatjallen
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Gerrymandering is corruption. It is vote farming. Both parties do it. Did I mention it is corruption? It is corrupt. Wicked and evil too.


2 posted on 06/17/2018 4:58:53 PM PDT by lurk
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I WISH they would look at Arizona. The Dems illegally gerrymandered this state in 2010 and Gov Brewer sued. A Clinton judge threw out the lawsuit and the Left was able to Gerrymander Kirsten Sinema into a seat that she is using as a springboard to her Senate run. CHEATING! And CRIMINAL DEM JUDGES!


3 posted on 06/17/2018 5:08:06 PM PDT by originalbuckeye ('In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act'- George Orwell.)
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The court has longed shied away from policing congressional maps without a clear way to measure how much political bias in redistricting is too much...didn't stop the 'rat-infested Pennsylvania Supreme Court from throwing out a GOP backed Penna map in favor of the Democrat-preferred one that will probably give the Dems a couple more House seats this fall......
4 posted on 06/17/2018 5:12:32 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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The dems would lose probably half their seats across the country if the courts drops gerrymandering.

I think elections should be across counties only as the smallest voting block, AND they should be vertically and horizontally congruent.


9 posted on 06/17/2018 5:35:00 PM PDT by CodeToad
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A decision on one outstanding ruling is possible tomorrow at 10 am.


10 posted on 06/17/2018 5:36:33 PM PDT by SMGFan (Sarah Michelle Gellar is on twitter @SarahMGellar)
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My, ‘Little Inner Libertarian’ wants me to leave this here:

“The smallest minority on Earth is the individual. Those who deny individual rights cannot claim to be defenders of minorities.” ~ Ayn Rand

Man, Oh, Man! Has our Government subverted OUR RIGHTS at EVERY opportunity, for THEIR gain.

*SPIT*

P.S. ‘Minorities’ has NOTHING to do with race, religion, creed or color. It’s ALL of us AMERICANS, individually who make up the whole.


13 posted on 06/17/2018 5:50:49 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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This is going to be a hard decision.

In past, federal judges have thrown out race neutral maps, because it diluted the minority vote; but they have also thrown out maps that guaranteed minority representation in some districts, because it was argued that had they been race neutral, minorities *might* have picked up seats in other districts.

Yep, the SCOTUS is going to earn its beer with this one.


15 posted on 06/17/2018 6:25:57 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Liberals have become moralistic, dogmatic, sententious, self-righteous, pinch-faced prudes.)
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Predicted criteria from the Court: any ‘gerrymandering’ that benefits conservatives (or by association, Trump) is automatically unconstitutional.


18 posted on 06/17/2018 7:17:10 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Enjoy the decline of the American empire.)
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One simple thing would be to not allow the crossing of a jurisdictional line, like that of a city or county.

I remember two such stunts in my prior tenure in the DPRM:

1) College Park was cut in half by the dems, placing each in an adjoining district. This eliminated any student vote from being effective.

2) Again, later,the dems, apparently wanting more party purity, changed Connie Morella’s (R) district from solely Montgomery county areas to include Prince George’s county. That took her out the next election.


20 posted on 06/17/2018 7:32:18 PM PDT by fruser1
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22 posted on 06/17/2018 10:10:58 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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6-3 partisan gerrymandering is OK, if Democrats do it.


23 posted on 06/17/2018 10:44:19 PM PDT by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters.)
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The court has twisted itself into pretzels on the entire issue in the past. Similar to the hole they dug themselves over 'public accomodation' laws, there really is no logical way out of the hole without overturning some precedent.

We now have the technology to easily make completely unbiased electoral maps generated by computer. The programmers should be given Monte Carlo data, for the state and create a program that will create compact and contiguous electoral boundries from it. Once everyone is satisfied that the program generates unbiased maps, feed them with census data, and take the map produced. The program should be entirely open source, and the data completely public so anyone can validate the results because the process would then be perfectly deterministic. Of course, that would be far too logical and unbiased, so it will never be done.

24 posted on 06/18/2018 8:51:08 AM PDT by zeugma (Power without accountability is fertilizer for tyranny.)
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What’s going on here, who says we must have equitable representation. If that’s the case why doesn’t it apply to senators, we have two left wingers in NY and neither represents all of upstate NY.


25 posted on 06/18/2018 8:53:15 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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