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Is the Korea denuclearization process for real?
The Quad-City Times ^ | September 22, 2018 | David Ignatius, Associate Editor & Columist, The Washington Post

Posted on 09/22/2018 12:24:16 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

After the big bang of the Singapore summit in June, with its showy but vague North Korean commitment to denuclearization, many analysts doubted that the deal had any real substance. But we're beginning to see the first signs of what a serious accord would look like.

This week's North-South summit meeting in Pyongyang produced accord on some basic essentials of a real denuclearization process. North Korea agreed to accept internal inspectors to monitor destruction of one of its test sites, a first step toward the broader inspection process that will be essential for any verifiable pact.

North Korea also agreed in principle to dismantle its main nuclear-weapons facility at Yongbyon, though the details are fuzzy and its offer is conditioned on reciprocal U.S. "corresponding measures." Finally, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo this week floated a timetable (without objection from North Korea) for completion of denuclearization by 2021. That is aspirational, to put it generously, but it at least provides a baseline for the U.S. to protest if Pyongyang delays.

The Trump administration seems willing to offer some version of the desired "corresponding measures" as a confidence-building step that would facilitate the Yongbyon shutdown. North Korea wants a formal declaration of the end of the state of war, but it's unclear what precise formula the U.S. will propose.

Meanwhile, President Trump continues his mutual flattery with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un. Trump keeps cheerleading for a deal, tweeting Tuesday that emerging signs of detente between the Koreas are "very exciting." And Kim said this week that he wants a second meeting with Trump to ratify the moves toward denuclearization....

(Excerpt) Read more at qctimes.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: denuclearization; korea; nknukes; trump; trumpasia; weapons
Are there no intelligent writers at that newspaper?
1 posted on 09/22/2018 12:24:16 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I thought it was a decent article. It certainly was informative.

That’s what I look for in journalism: stories that give me information I haven’t seen before. It’s becoming increasingly difficult and I often find I know more than the author of an article. If nothing else, this enables me to better distinguish between real news and fake news.

I see this article as real news. I almost didn’t read it because you seemed to trash it. Since I didn’t see anything particularly objectionable in your excerpt, I decided to read the article to find out what your beef was. I didn’t see it.


2 posted on 09/22/2018 1:06:56 AM PDT by be-baw (still seeking...)
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To: be-baw
"A final problem for this deal is that it's too linked to Trump, a polarizing and politically fragile president. North Korean commentators continue to anchor their denuclearization offer to Trump. A commentary last weekend in the state-run Rodong Sinmun newspaper stressed that "President Trump ... repeatedly expresses his thanks" for recent progress."

You missed that?

3 posted on 09/22/2018 1:25:48 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"A final problem for this deal is that it's too linked to Trump, a polarizing and politically fragile president..."

His statement here is annoying, but it is also a non issue. Presidents are always personally tied to their foreign policies, and their opponents always cast it in a negative light. So what if he digs into Trump a little.

The rest of what he writes is reasonable. North Korea is at least agreeing to allow some inspectors and dismantle facilities. At the same time, reunification could derail everything. That problem would still exist no matter who was President.

The only difference is, the news would rather have a Democrat taking the credit. Unless I missed something.

4 posted on 09/22/2018 1:57:22 AM PDT by Widget Jr
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To: Widget Jr

When I served in Korea a soldier would salute an officer and shout “Tongil!” which means Reunification. I believe that is still true.


5 posted on 09/22/2018 2:08:43 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’ll believe it when teams of international inspectors are given free rein to look everywhere and find nothing.

Not until.


6 posted on 09/22/2018 3:02:39 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: be-baw
Spent six years in Korea serving in the Army. I think that Trump is going to achieve the goal of Unification of Korea.

This is the Trump coup against the United Nations, showing the world that one of their signature treaties was not really something that world body could or even cared to finish. Kim has been around, educated abroad, and certainly doesn't want to end up like all the former presidents in S.Korea. It will be interesting to see the voting in Korea after reunification. Will incorporation of the North prevent further presidents from corruption, simply because the stakes are too high to rip off the North who will vote as a block with like minded S.Korean's.

If the US/SK/Japan can build up the infrastructure in the North after reunification, world class medical facilities and living conditions might attract Snowbirds for retirement. I'm looking forward to a second there given the relative strength of the dollar. Go Trump/Kim.

7 posted on 09/22/2018 3:36:57 AM PDT by Jumper
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To: be-baw
The article fails to discuss the larger context: a failing North Korean economy; that US and South Korean military capability are increasing while North Korea's is declining; that with more information from the outside world, the North Korean people no longer believe or trust the regime; that even the secret police now take bribes; and that China fears a collapse of the Kim regime and is insistent that North Korea reform its economy along Chinese lines and drop its nuclear weapons program.

Moreover, if nothing else, Trump is a deal-maker. If a nuclear deal and a new and peaceful relationship with North Korea are possible, Trump will figure it out how to do it. Indeed, with a Nobel Prize and easy reelection to be had for such an accomplishment, Trump will keep the North Korean situation a top priority.

8 posted on 09/22/2018 4:41:16 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ehh... Like the WaCompost would ask this question if Zero was still President. They’d be rejoicing from the rooftops and questioning nothing!


9 posted on 09/22/2018 5:39:33 AM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: Jumper

I cannot imagine what a unified Korea would look like politically. How does a prosperous, free South unite on an equal voting basis with a people who have been far more oppressed than Eastern Europeans during the Cold War?

Do they all get one vote? How much money/welfare/reconstruction does the South have to put up? Is movement from North to South controlled or free? Can people from the South buy property in the North. If so, from whom? Who gets and who controls the missiles/artillery/warships? What role does an NK general have in the unified army. Same question for SK generals. How do you prevent a quick NK oriented coup against the unified government?

Unifying the US with Mexico would be far easier.


10 posted on 09/23/2018 1:56:04 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: be-baw

Agree. It seems like a bit of a narititive shift from the washpost.


11 posted on 09/23/2018 1:59:22 PM PDT by CJ Wolf (Free)
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To: jeffc

The question is leading. The article seems to suggest the answer is Yes.


12 posted on 09/23/2018 2:06:46 PM PDT by CJ Wolf (Free)
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To: Jumper

And, maybe most important, how does China react to a unified Korea on it’s border. A Korea that will be culturally dominated by Westernized Koreans.

I think not well.


13 posted on 09/23/2018 2:07:31 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Whenifhow; null and void; aragorn; EnigmaticAnomaly; kalee; Kale; azishot; ...

“its offer is conditioned on reciprocal U.S. “corresponding measures.” “

and THAT is the rub..


14 posted on 09/23/2018 3:46:27 PM PDT by bitt (We know not what course others may take, but as for me, Give me Liberty, or Give me Death!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No. The Wa Po writer wants to twist, lie and/or obfuscate to make Trump look Bad.


15 posted on 09/23/2018 3:49:00 PM PDT by little jeremiah (When we do not punish evildoers we are ripping the foundations of justice from future generations)
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To: bitt
“its offer is conditioned on reciprocal U.S. “corresponding measures.”

Well what are those reciprocal measures? If they involve trade, financing, normalization of travel and moves towards normalcy in diplomatic relations that is only fair. If it involves US denuclearization or some such obviously that is a nonstarter.

16 posted on 09/23/2018 3:59:51 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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