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Gold is probably cheap. But with a silver to gold price ratio of around 82:1, I'd say silver is even cheaper. Recently the price ratio has hit its highest level since the early 1990's. So yeah, I've been nibbling in silver for a little over a month. But in any event precious metals in general look to be below fair market value right now.

Just my 2¢. Do your own due diligence... caveat emptor.

1 posted on 10/01/2018 6:57:57 PM PDT by NRx
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Gold is how you buy large property (Not just land, but big-ticket items) in just about all trading economies.

Silver is how you buy food and gas in all trading economies. It’s just as important to not have a pocket full of gold as it is to have empty pockets in a crash.

That said, Did this place turn into SHTFplan.com while I wasn’t looking ? The lucrative “prepper industry” has been telling us the dollar is collapsing in 24 hours for the past literally 18 years.


2 posted on 10/01/2018 7:02:06 PM PDT by Celerity
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I think a lot of people go broke speculating on silver, and I think gold as well.


3 posted on 10/01/2018 7:02:38 PM PDT by Williams (Stop tolerating the intolerant.)
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A 21 trillion dollar debt pretty much assures eventual inflation.


4 posted on 10/01/2018 7:02:41 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death by cults.)
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I like “junk” silver. 1921 Morgan dollars have been reasonable lately. Or pre ‘65 Roosevelt dimes


5 posted on 10/01/2018 7:04:32 PM PDT by dynachrome (When an empire dies, you are left with vast monuments in front of which peasants squat to defecate)
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Silver is better. Down 2/3 from it’s peak, and much more practical for most people use to buy, sell and trade.


7 posted on 10/01/2018 7:04:54 PM PDT by Hugin ("Not one step from his weapons should a traveler take"...Havamal 38)
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Growth does not create systemic inflation. You will see spot inflation until supply catches up with demand; which it will. Inflation comes from money for nothing.


8 posted on 10/01/2018 7:05:27 PM PDT by Revolutionary ("Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition!")
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This year has been especially lackluster for gold. Its price has slumped 8%, to about $1,200 an ounce, and is off more than 35% from its high of $1,900 in 2011.

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That big move to $1900 was fueled by gold’s safe haven status.


10 posted on 10/01/2018 7:06:07 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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Been a while since I’ve seen anyone hyping gold.

I was a gold bug - 40 years ago.

Rule No. 1 for investing in gold - if you can’t touch it, you don’t own it. At most you might own a piece of paper. And Office Depot sells paper cheaper.


14 posted on 10/01/2018 7:08:55 PM PDT by PAR35
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Seems like only yesterday that we had FReepers extolling the virtues of gold as an investment, why it always tracks the price of a good men’s suit. Or something.

Guess they moved on to Bitcoin.


20 posted on 10/01/2018 7:18:37 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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If gold was such a good investment the investors wouldn’t be trying to sell it.


21 posted on 10/01/2018 7:19:18 PM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic is one stop shopping...It's the super Walmart for news.)
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“...Virtually every government in the world is trying to promote inflation partly because there is so much sovereign debt,” Trauner says. When there is so much debt, he contends, governments have three choices: default, restructure, or inflate the currency. “Politicians, when given the chance, will choose the latter.”

10, maybe 15 years ago I was talking to a bank manager.

I was telling him there's going to be a world economic crash because the world was running on debt, everyone is in debt to each other, and the system can't continue.

He asked me when it was going to crash.

I said I don't know but it's inevitable.

I'm not predicting it will happen soon but I still believe the system of debt is unsustainable and will collapse at some point.

When? Who knows?

24 posted on 10/01/2018 7:20:03 PM PDT by yesthatjallen
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Gold, silver, name-the-commodity. Its market is manipulated.

In the age of derivatives, naked shorts, and microsecond trading, the laws of supply and demand NO LONGER APPLY.

The price is set in a arbitrary manner by someone(s) who are always one step ahead of you. There is NO PRICE DISCOVERY.

There is no way to win.


27 posted on 10/01/2018 7:24:11 PM PDT by TruthInThoughtWordAndDeed (Yahuah Yahusha)
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The globalistas have trounced American wages for decades. We are so far form recovering from that that wage inflation and ‘cost-push’ inflation is almost impossible. Deflation was more likely until Trump came along. Now workers are at least treading water.


28 posted on 10/01/2018 7:28:35 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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Pardon what is probably a really naive question but why isn’t gold & silver super valuable commodities in a country like Venezuela where the economy is in the crapper?


31 posted on 10/01/2018 7:30:52 PM PDT by JonPreston
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The right time to buy gold is when its price is going down and when its price is going up.

Judging by the ads


32 posted on 10/01/2018 7:32:18 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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Thanks for the heads up. I just turned some BTC into junk silver. I have no idea what either will do, but I should probably diversify a little.


34 posted on 10/01/2018 7:36:40 PM PDT by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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These metals are cheap(ish) compared to what they have been trading for in recent months. Gold @ 1193, compared to what, $1250? A 5% off sale does not exactly make me want to rush out to Macy’s. I own phys gold. I also own (lots more) phys silver and I really like the metals, but I have to view them as decidedly non-magical commodities. No more, no less. Commodities that do not go bad. If I were to tell you that you should stack up several tons of wheat in your garage for some sort of deflationary or inflationary collapse you’d look at me funny.

I am neither bull nor bear on metals at present and have not been for at least 5 years.

Although the Au/Ag ratio is very high now, I have also come to believe that this ratio is just flaming nonsense. Just giving my opinion. That ratio is gargantuanly influenced by the relative values of Au/Ag in various coinages down through history (very long history I acknowledge) but NO coinage other than specialty issues contains either metal, the currencies have been completely demetalized. Some view that as alarming; I respect that view but do not hold it.

I believe gold is selling for a nominal amount over its production cost kinda sorta around $1000 an ounce. But I worry about silver because the production cost of silver is....zero. ALL silver other than from Hecla comes as a byproduct of zinc & tin mining. It rides along as a freebie. There is no such thing as a silver mine other than Hecla and a few small mines in Mexico. I do not believe these mines have the ability to affect the market much, if at all. Now for sure, my “zero” number is wrong because a tin miner or a zinc miner expects some amount of silver to ride along and values it accordingly. And it costs about a buck to mash silver into a coin or round or bar. Again, this is just my opinion but I think silver goes lower. And I have had this exact discussion with two dozen silver weasels, all the way up to screaming matches, who have attempted to sell me silver at $26 and $22 and $18 over the last 4 or so years.


35 posted on 10/01/2018 7:38:52 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Apoplectic is where we want them)
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here is my issue with silver

one-third or so of industrial demand is
from solar cells

per cell silver.
1990 1 gram
today 100mg
soon 65mg
the trend is always down

there is always the danger that
copper or aluminum could be made workable


36 posted on 10/01/2018 7:39:02 PM PDT by RockyTx
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Gold is gold.

Lead will get the necessary items every time.

Worth the weight is a reletave term...


43 posted on 10/01/2018 8:01:28 PM PDT by mabarker1 (Congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!!)
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When interest rates are close to zero there is no penalty for holding gold. Once rates rise enough to reward you for saving that will change.


54 posted on 10/01/2018 8:26:39 PM PDT by Pelham (California, how mass immigration transforms America into Obamaland)
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