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What I Learned About Young People While Trying to Buy a Car
Townhall.com ^ | October 23, 2018 | Dennis Prager

Posted on 10/23/2018 4:25:54 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Truth29

This is the generation of group think. They only drive cars their friend’s drive. They live in the same neighborhoods and attend the same schools. They dress, think, and talk alike.Encouraging your children to be different is powerful but you have to start young these day. Yelp even tells them where to eat.


41 posted on 10/23/2018 5:04:13 AM PDT by cnsmom
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To: simpson96

Personally I think he is miss remembering the “good old days”. In 1982 I became a car salesman (yes a low point in my life) and one of the things the manufacturer was trying to correct was the ignorance of salesman. They found that if a customer read a sales brochure they would know more than the average salesman.

Now if you can find a real truck salesman then you can get into technical discussions on towing, payload, tires, axle ratios, etc.


42 posted on 10/23/2018 5:06:00 AM PDT by where's_the_Outrage? (Drain the Swamp. Build the Wall.)
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To: Kaslin

Cars are boring egg shaped front wheeled drive appliances. What’s to get excited about? SUVs are even worse.


43 posted on 10/23/2018 5:06:20 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: fredhead

“How can someone have passion...for a car that looks like every other car on the road, is a technology laden piece of “something” . . . .”
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I fully agree. Nothing stands out any longer. There is no beauty or style and even Maserati has an SUV. Everything looks cookie-cutter. What is there to be passionate about? But I agree with Prager - young people do not pursue knowledge or mastery over anything because they can always look it up on their smart phones.


44 posted on 10/23/2018 5:07:30 AM PDT by punknpuss
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To: Kaslin

Has Dennis considered that internet automobile forums and product websites have given the consumer the power to learn all they like about a vehicle?

I usually show up to buy with more knowledge of the vehicle than the salesperson. All I need from them is a test drive. Even pricing and availability are available online.


45 posted on 10/23/2018 5:13:52 AM PDT by ConservativeWarrior (Fall down 7 times, stand up 8. - Japanese proverb)
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To: ConservativeWarrior

The last 3 vehicles I bought I showed up at the dealership with the VIN number and print out of the vehicle. I asked, show me this vehicle.


46 posted on 10/23/2018 5:15:42 AM PDT by VastRWCon (Fake News)
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To: Kaslin
"...women have no need for the support of a man. Women, they have been told all their lives, are perfectly capable of taking care of themselves and any children they might have..."

And here is the final nail in the coffin of Western Civilization.

Women need men. Children need fathers. There, I said it.

47 posted on 10/23/2018 5:19:12 AM PDT by T-Bone Texan (I posit that there IS something left worth fighting for.)
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To: Kaslin

Car dealers do not sell cars. They sell money.


48 posted on 10/23/2018 5:20:32 AM PDT by HChampagne (Cruz supporter but I will support and vote for Trump.)
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To: jeffc

The kids at the cell phone stores are pretty gung ho and knowledgeable too.


49 posted on 10/23/2018 5:21:45 AM PDT by Pollard (If you don't understand what I typed, you haven't read the classics.)
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To: fredhead

Good point! Most of the cars on the road today could pass for vacuum cleaners!


50 posted on 10/23/2018 5:24:23 AM PDT by wintertime (Stop treating government teachers like they are reincarnated Mother Teresas!)
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To: HChampagne
Car dealers do not sell cars. They sell money.

Bingo. My last car purchase was over 9 years ago. The sales rep was basically a gopher. It was his job to push the extended warranty and to try get me to use their loan company.

51 posted on 10/23/2018 5:25:49 AM PDT by EVO X
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To: RoosterRedux

He’s not saying that being able to look things up is a problem, he’s saying that it enables less passionate people, who don’t care enough about the subject to know anything about it, to just “wing it” despite being totally ignorant of whatever they are doing and arguing. If someone had any passion at all for some subject he would almost certainly know something about it after a while, so not knowing anything at all about it is definitely an indicator of a lack of passion.

It is related to an idea that I have seen for a long time in internet arguments about the education system, that actually requiring students to learn facts or skills is useless (since they can just look them up) and the only thing they need is skills in “analysis”. It really amounts to a promotion of ignorance and the production of a servile population that, having no actual background knowledge on which to draw for the analysis of new information, is just subject to whatever the internet tells them.

Tying this back to his article, I do see it relating to the idea that all jobs (at least in a particular class) are basically equivalent and you can just flit from one to another without ever learning anything about any of them. You see the same thing occurring in the so-called news media, where a fresh graduate of journalism school can go off write about sports, biotech, and international politics, without knowing anything about any of them.


52 posted on 10/23/2018 5:26:48 AM PDT by fluorescence
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To: Kaslin

Sales Reps are trained to tell customers “they will look it up” rather than give a wrong answer. The company I work for has product training for all reps, but if you don’t know the answer look out up so you will remember the next time the question is asked by a customer.


53 posted on 10/23/2018 5:27:22 AM PDT by EC Washington
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To: Kaslin

I’ve done a lot of work with the retail industry. I’ve known owners whose business strategy was put out inventory, and hire salespeople who know nothing about the product.

For some reason, they’d make money hand over fist.


54 posted on 10/23/2018 5:28:29 AM PDT by Fido969 (In!)
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To: Kaslin

The financial incentive structure is what has changed in automotive sales. You used to be able to make a lot of money in that job if you were clever and willing to rip people off. The car dealers determined that this was a negative to their business, and removed those incentives, so now rather than attracting sharks it attracts a different less aggressive but more pleasant sort of type, and pays them so poorly they don’t even stay around very long to learn about the cars.


55 posted on 10/23/2018 5:31:41 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: Kaslin

My recollection of my experience in earlier days is that car salespeople (especially those of foreign cars) were car enthusiasts.

Back in the 80s the dealers wanted salesmen, guys who could sell ice to Eskimos. I guess if they were enthusiasts it was ok.


56 posted on 10/23/2018 5:33:16 AM PDT by TalBlack (It's hard to shoot people when they are shooting back at you...)
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To: Kaslin

My husband has been in the car business for almost forty years, his brother owns four dealerships. My husband has a loyal, consistent client base he has developed throughout his career, they call him and he gets them exactly what they want at a fair price and no hassle, these people don’t like going into dealerships.. He sees this all the time with the personnel ALL dealerships, including his brothers are hiring. They do NOT want experienced, mature sales people, they are too expensive, too old and can not identify with the younger market. They want “greeters, personable no nothings who turn the customer over to the experienced back office bosses and do not consider car sales anything more than an interim job and are paid minimal commission or just a greeting fee.


57 posted on 10/23/2018 5:34:11 AM PDT by Toespi
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To: fredhead

100% agree.

All the cars today are close substitutes for each other, seemingly assembled from the same components from the same suppliers. With too much nanny-state electronics that fail to engage the drivers, instead putting them to sleep. Not surprisingly, most people drive like they’re asleep. Most are. Probably Dennis Prager too. So why should there be passion? Should it be a surprise if we’re at “peak auto”?

It started with CAFE - ironically I think it was a President named “Ford” who signed that tragedy into law, right?

I still remember the good old days when a Pontiac and an Oldsmobile were two entirely different cars. That kind of diversity was a great thing ; )

Liking my 2002 WRX - the car just begs to be driven hard - but what I really want is a ‘66 GTO. Ragtop. Stick. 389 Tri-Power... some day...

Make America Great Again!


58 posted on 10/23/2018 5:35:41 AM PDT by lowtaxsmallgov (Finally, an Administration that knows how to grow an economy!! MAGA!)
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To: bert
"Re Bankers: Women work cheap and follow the book with no thought getting in the way"

Subjective observation only, but my local bank is staffed about 90% with foreign born males. The only women I ever see are occasional tellers and all the management are men.

59 posted on 10/23/2018 5:37:48 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: Bonemaker
Hard to get excited about cars that all look and feel alike.
Couldn't agree with you more.
As a child of the 50s and 60s, I couldn't wait for the annual fall lineup of new cars to be announced. Exciting stuff.
And then when muscle cars came along - WOW - I want one of them !
Now, the entire auto industry has become BORING.
60 posted on 10/23/2018 5:41:37 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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