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Caregiver who left 4-year-old girl to die in hot car fined just $25
New York Post ^ | Nov 13, 2018 | Alexandra Klausner

Posted on 11/13/2018 2:56:30 PM PST by ETL

Edited on 11/13/2018 5:26:37 PM PST by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: ETL

Pro-choicers should be thrilled. They only think SOME babies “deserve to be chosen”. The always-slippery slope means the next step is un-choosing older children. Punishing this woman would be a blow to the “progressive” democRat cult of death.


21 posted on 11/13/2018 3:51:33 PM PST by bluejean (I'm becoming a cranky old person. It really annoys me.)
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To: mewzilla

Or her phone.


22 posted on 11/13/2018 3:51:37 PM PST by FrdmLvr (They never thought she would lose.)
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To: madison10

Maximum fine was $300. Would that have made anyone happy? Would that have made you happy?

The jury had already said she didn’t do anything wrong.


23 posted on 11/13/2018 3:56:42 PM PST by PAR35
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To: PAR35

Who cares if I am happy? A $300 fine might make her think before she acts/concentrate, though.


24 posted on 11/13/2018 4:00:51 PM PST by madison10
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To: Manly Warrior

We don’t know all the evidence. It’s entirely possible that the DA grossly overcharged in the case. Having been a judge, a prosecutor and a defense counsel, I’ve seen that juries generally have a way of getting to the nut of the issue. The occasional jury nullification notwithstanding.


25 posted on 11/13/2018 4:22:21 PM PST by jagusafr
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To: Kipp

How many child deaths in hot cars are because we are now MANDATED to put the child in the back seat, instead of in the passenger seat where the kid can easily be seen?

Forcing kids in the back seat where they are not as visible is stupid.


26 posted on 11/13/2018 4:25:47 PM PST by sloanrb
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To: robowombat; Innovative

Why are you blaming the judge? The jury acquired on manslaughter. At that point the judge couldn’t do much more than issue a fine. It’s that whole “jury of your peers” thing. Now as to the jurors...


27 posted on 11/13/2018 4:28:04 PM PST by piytar (If it was not for double standards, the Democrats and the left would have NO standards.)
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To: Innovative

I wonder if the judge’s instructions to the jury regarding what defined manslaughter lead to this travesty? Confusing instructions from a judge do cause bad verdicts.


28 posted on 11/13/2018 5:05:33 PM PST by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: ETL

How in the heck can anybody be so STUPID??? She must go around in her little world with her head where it don’t shine!


29 posted on 11/13/2018 6:39:25 PM PST by tallyhoe
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To: sloanrb

I would think that FAR fewer kids die due to being forgotten in the back seat of a car, than would die due to the increased risk of being in a front seat.

That said, maybe booster seats and / or rear seats could offer an alarm such that if occupied, and the car is turned “off”, an alarm sounds. That should be doable for under $10, retail price. Technically, several approaches would be feasible.

1000 hours “community service” for this “caregiver” to go to churches, concerts, etc., to briefly describe her error and promote said safety device. Only the actual appearance in front of the crowd counts, not travel to, etc. Yes, it would take a lot of guts.


30 posted on 11/13/2018 7:06:17 PM PST by Paul R.
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To: Responsibility2nd
She could have been fined $1,000 or more if she had killed a dog that way.

Indeed. Good thing it was just a child. I'm guessing they are marking it down as a 29 month abortion?

31 posted on 11/13/2018 9:30:32 PM PST by zeugma (Power without accountability is fertilizer for tyranny.)
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To: jagusafr

Sir, that was my point I suppose- the jury is the decider of fact. Bottomline- the child died because the woman left her in the vehicle after dropping off her own kid- not sure how a jury concluded that she was not (criminally) negligent to some degree- the minor nontraffic ticket that judge found her liable for not withstanding.

Correct me if I wrong, but negligence does not require intent, if it did then it would be a homicide of some sort...


32 posted on 11/14/2018 6:53:36 AM PST by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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To: Manly Warrior

You are correct, the standard for negligence is that someone knew or should have known that a particular action or failure to act would lead to a particular consequence and performed (or didn’t) the action anyway.


33 posted on 11/14/2018 10:49:16 AM PST by jagusafr
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To: Responsibility2nd

It’s not a baby, it’s a large blob of tissue. So, a post-partum abortion is justified. Taking care of the “blob of tissue” is such an inconvenience. /sarcasm


34 posted on 11/15/2018 9:40:56 AM PST by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Gone but not forgiven.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

The message is in the firmware. They are updating that firmware all the time. You could probably arrange for custom firmware to display “Don’t forget your baby” - there might be a charge for that.


35 posted on 11/15/2018 9:50:52 AM PST by SamAdams76 ( If you are offended by what I have to say here then you can blame your parents for raising a wuss)
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