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Divided We Stand The country is hopelessly split. So why not make it official and break up?
NYMAG ^ | 11/14/2018

Posted on 11/14/2018 4:00:34 PM PST by Altura Ct.

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To: Altura Ct.

Allowing those states that are dominated by progressive politics secede peacefully is the only way to avoid the coming domestic violence/civil war. Let them go, I’ll happily move to a state that chooses to remain and abide by the Constitution, the other states can go an build their socialist/communist nirvana’s on their own. This would also prove that we the people have learned our lesson from history and not repeat the mistake Lincoln made by fighting the first civil war.


41 posted on 11/14/2018 4:39:07 PM PST by fatman6502002 ((The Team The Team The Team - Bo Schembechler circa 1969))
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To: DoodleBob

Based on that shirt, how liberal screwed up is New Mexico. Is it Santa Fe and Toas the problem?


42 posted on 11/14/2018 4:40:19 PM PST by Old Yeller (Auto-correct has become my worst enema.)
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To: A_Former_Democrat

Rather do that than live like this.
How long do you think their half will exist without total collapse. Then we can wipe them all and take back the territory


43 posted on 11/14/2018 4:46:06 PM PST by ZULU (Jeff Sessions should be tried for sedition.)
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To: Altura Ct.

Okay; the dems get NYC, Chicago, Boston, L.A., Baltimore, and San Franshitco. We get everything else. Sorry Vegas; you belong to the real people.

No dems are allowed to vote in the American Republic. There will be no dems on the ballots to vote for.

No Republicans are allowed to vote in the cities mentioned. There will be a lead President and a secondary President for the city folks. Congress will be all (real) Republicans. No Jeff Flake, Murkowski, or Collins types allowed.

The cost of food in the cities will unfortunately have to go up to pay for all the welfare babies living there and some tech items may go up in the rest of the country; like Internet service and possibly computers and smart phones. I suspect many rural people will be happy to downgrade to a dumb ‘ole flip phone. Many already are.

One catch; concealed weapons permit holders will be able to go anywhere with their concealed weapons. Cities included.


44 posted on 11/14/2018 4:50:54 PM PST by Boomer (The only good leftists are those who have 'left us' for another country)
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To: Altura Ct.

People better turn back to God or no one is going to have anything.


45 posted on 11/14/2018 4:53:16 PM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Publius

Good post. I always recall the first part of that quote (originally from the Lord), but never paid any attention to the rest of it. This time the country will become all slave I guess.


46 posted on 11/14/2018 4:56:13 PM PST by throwback (The object of opening the mind, is as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid.)
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To: TallahasseeConservative

Democrats won’t allow us to be independent.


47 posted on 11/14/2018 5:04:05 PM PST by Wpin ("I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny...")
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To: Grimmy

It very well may come to that, but we are not prepared. No organization.


48 posted on 11/14/2018 5:06:25 PM PST by Wpin ("I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny...")
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To: Altura Ct.

Secession is IMO the best option for a peaceful resolution. We have two tribes who have completely different worldviews and who do not get along. That’s obvious to everybody. I’m just fine with letting the likes of the Northeast and the Left Coast go their own way. Some states will probably need to break up (eg Occupied Northern Virginia, Greater Miami, Chicago, the coastlines of California, Oregon and Washington State, NYC from the rest of New York, Philly from the rest of Pennsylvania). That’s fine. We can for a time allow a population exchange with Leftists fleeing to the two big Leftist enclaves and traditional Americans to the rest of the country. Everybody will be much happier this way.


49 posted on 11/14/2018 5:10:04 PM PST by FLT-bird
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

“People better turn back to God or no one is going to have anything.”

If it is one thing that you can be certain of regarding this majority or near-majority socialist movement in America - it is that they will not turn to God, their life philosophy does not allow it. And they can’t turn “back” because they never recognized the existence of God in the first place.


50 posted on 11/14/2018 5:13:56 PM PST by Scott from the Left Coast (You may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you...)
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To: Altura Ct.
Of course it's nonsense. You can have sanctuary cities and thumb your nose at ICE because there is an ICE and because the border and points of entry aren't completely porous. Sanctuary cities would be in even worse shape without the federal institutions and policies that they hate -- or else they'd have to wise up and start taking illegal immigration seriously.

And national health insurance? The big insurance companies are headquartered in the blue states. How are they going to feel about getting cut out of the health insurance business?

51 posted on 11/14/2018 5:14:28 PM PST by x
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To: Altura Ct.

Even the Liberals are starting to notice.

Know what would stop it? Blacks in the South would cry out and demand the US Army conquer and occupy the South again before letting it become independent.


52 posted on 11/14/2018 5:16:28 PM PST by DesScorp
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To: Altura Ct.
More at link

Much, much more at link.

What is this guy, a friggin science fiction novelist?

The short answer to all this is that different parts of the country need the other parts to keep them from dangerous excesses.

Those millionaires in San Francisco need the red states to save them from their own radicals.

You can think up other examples if you want to take the time to think it over.

53 posted on 11/14/2018 5:20:15 PM PST by x
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To: dp0622
If such system could be worked out, and maybe it could the problem is that it would not last. The socialist/communist side would be broke and bleeding population very soon, productive people would soon be seeing the error of their ways and fleeing, while the nonproductive people would be headed toward the communist states. The communist states would soon be broke, the engine of production broken down, including agriculture, the dictators who rule the communist states would placate the people by telling them, via their state-controlled "free press" that the liberty states had gotten more than their fair share of fertile land, factories, money, etc., and that they needed to go to war and take what was "rightfully" theirs; and, by the way, the only reason the communist state was not working was because the whole country was needed to make communism work. Then, if the communist states were successful in taking over all the states, they would then be eyeing the entire continent. Communists are not peaceful and they are never content with what they have.
54 posted on 11/14/2018 5:23:22 PM PST by erkelly
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

“Texas v. White. Texas v. White, (1869), U.S. Supreme Court case in which it was held that the United States is “an indestructible union” from which no state can secede.”

So you’re saying we have to kill them all instead. Okay.

(yes, I’m just kidding)


55 posted on 11/14/2018 5:27:56 PM PST by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: TomGuy

It would have to be States. Texas for ports, the Midwest and Southern States can be the United States. East Coast, Cali, some Northern States and probably a couple Southwest States can call themselves whatever they want. Freakistan sounds pretty good to me.


56 posted on 11/14/2018 5:49:16 PM PST by Pollard (If you don't understand what I typed, you haven't read the classics.)
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My suggestion — partition is not feasible, compromise might be possible on some issues, but other issues are clearly moral choices of right or wrong. Just stick to the current plan, pray a lot, and hope that the President and others can clearly articulate the choices and the differences. If you lose California, at this point, it’s more of a symbolic than structural blow, and you know they will end up in a loose confederation with Mexico. I don’t get why anyone would toss being part of the greatest country on earth to be closer to Mexico. Ironic that millions seem to be desperate to get out of those countries then they want your country to join them. All they gain by doing that over the long run is that they see worse soccer on TV.


58 posted on 11/14/2018 6:08:56 PM PST by Peter ODonnell (vote Democrat -- and become the first living American to do so)
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To: DoodleBob

I really like that t-shirt. Unfortunately, Nevada and Arizona need to be added to Dumbfucistan.


59 posted on 11/14/2018 6:18:52 PM PST by willk (everyone)
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To: Sarah Barracuda
I like this coexist bumper sticker:


60 posted on 11/14/2018 6:26:43 PM PST by DoodleBob
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