Posted on 12/12/2018 2:49:41 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum
The answer to the question posed in my headline is 'yes' -- theoretically. The GOP still controls the House of Representatives for the next few weeks, so if (still) Speaker Ryan and company can get their caucus in line, they could simply pass a DHS appropriation that meets the president's full request on wall funding. That would not only fortify Trump's bargaining position and apply pressure to Senate Democrats, it would also embarrass incoming Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who just taunted her Republican colleagues for not having the votes. And the next House Republican leader is telling reporters that he's "100 percent" confident that he does have the votes:
Felicia Sonmez ✔ @feliciasonmez McCarthy tells Fox News tonight that he has the votes for a House bill with $5 billion in wall funding. Q: Are you 100% confident? McCarthy: "Yes, I am."
Paul Kane ✔ @pkcapitol For what it's worth, it's very doubtful that Ryan/McCarthy have 218 votes on their side a gov't funding bill, even one including $5b for the wall. Some conservatives will balk at other spending, moderates will oppose the wall & some midterm losers might not show to vote.
All sorts of journalists who cover Capitol Hill are expressing skepticism over this claim, citing several factors: First, absenteeism. Dozens of lawmakers, including many defeated GOP incumbents, haven't been showing up for work lately. What are the chances leadership can wrangle them back to DC to participate in strategic show votes? Second, resentment. Many of those defeated Republicans, some of whom the president foolishly ridiculed, at least partially blame Trump for their losses...
(Excerpt) Read more at townhall.com ...
Today a conservative friend said to me that even if we had a wall, the next Dem president will just open up the gates.
The ‘Cash for Clunkers’ fiasco cost $3 billion.
Elon Musk has received $4.9 billion in taxpayer subsidies.
Apparently, for the same reason they couldn’t do it for the past 2 years, which is partly why they lost the house.
“the next Dem president will just open up the gates.”
That is no excuse for not building one. Ryan’s rinos do not want a wall, that is why it won’t happen. Ryan specifically included language forbidding one inch of new wall in the last CR.
This is why I no longer support tax cuts for the GOP donor class. Nor for the Gentry libs who run the ‘crats.
I understand all that. My friend is right.
Agreed.
Ryan’s not smart enough to pull that one off.
i thougth Trump said the issue was not having enough senate votes?
Because yesterday Pelosi was saying well the House could at least pass it now, and Trump said why waste time to pass in the house if can’t get 60 in senate?
If the House passes the bill, could next year’s senate (with more R votes) pass it? Might work !
You’re right......all that Ryan is good at is smooth talk and deception.
I thought the House had already passed $5 billion for border security and the Senate was only offering $1.3 billion.
there is no way any Senate Dem would vote money for a wall unless Upchuckee made them. No mount of pressure will change that ... as far as the House goes Ryan would stop it getting to the floor and, even if he did allow it without the 10 Dems, it would be pointless like all those bills to kill Ocare the House passed.
The short answer is yes. It would die in the Senate.
This is why Pres. Trump needs to work with the states to enforce the 12th Amendment (12A) and Section 2 of the 14th Amendment (14A).
Enforcing 12A will put a stop to unconstitutional state winner-take-all laws for electoral votes.
Enforcing Sec. 2 of 14A will prohibit undocumented Democrats from voting, possibly swinging election outcomes in favor of Democrats by doing so. Note that subsequent amendments have effectively changed how Sec. 2 is interpreted.
"Excerpted from the 12th Amendment: "The Electors shall meet in their respective states, and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice-President, and they shall make distinct lists of all persons voted for as President, and of all persons voted for as Vice- President, and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate [emphasis added]; …”
”14th Amendment, Section 2: Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the Executive and Judicial officers of a State, or the members of the Legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such State, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens [emphases added] twenty-one years of age in such State."
Apportionment of representation in House of Representatives
Regarding Sec. 2, Pres. Trump will need to make sure that states require citizens to present citizenship / photo id cards in order to vote, the cards needing to be scannable to facilitate Democratic ballot box officials with “poor” eyesight.
Also, off topic, patriots are encouraged to watch Dan Bongino’s excellent 37 min video (associated book). The video helps to flesh out the alleged Mueller conspiracy against Pres. Trump.
Dan Bongino - Obama, Mueller and the Biggest Scam in American History (not office friendly, turn down volume)
A bill has to pass both houses of the same Congress.
I think that Trump is just toying with us, because he hasn’t called out Mitch McConnell. We don’t even know if Mitch supports a wall! McConnell never tweets about immigration, including after the talks Trump had with Pelosi and Schumer. Trump’s best chance for border security was with Paul Ryan’s $1.3 trillion dollar Omnibus spending bill that he signed with no funding for new parts of the wall or security. He had control of both Houses, yet he gave Paul Ryan and Schumer everything. Schumer even said that Trump gave more than Obama!
Tell Congress that the money is for Iran. They’ll pass it quick.
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