Trump's Shutdown Trap?

American Thinker ^ | January 15, 2019 | Thomas Lifson

[captaincaveman]

Has President Trump suckered Democrats and the Deep State into a trap that will enable a radical downsizing of the federal bureaucracy? In only 5 more days of the already-“longest government shutdown in history” (25 days and counting, as of today), a heretofore obscure threshold will be reached, enabling permanent layoffs of bureaucrats furloughed 30 days or more.

[Luigi Vasellini]

Excellent point at how Fed employees look at the private sector

[grumpygresh]

Leftist bureaucrats lose jobs, government saves money and functions better. Trifecta just there. And he’s going to get a wall in the end.

[Not A Snowbird]

You can’t make that assumption, plus political persuasion should be completely irrelevant.

The young ones have the new ideas and a decent work ethic. We want to keep them.

[gleeaikin]

I suspect that on the whole privatizing government work ends up costing the taxpayers more.

[Salvation]

And private citizen groups could oversee the parks and do other jobs that need to be done.

HeeHeeHee!

[SunkenCiv]

Thanks captaincaveman.

• Trump's shutdown trap?
• Trump's Shutdown Trap

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• Kraft opens 'free' grocery store for unpaid federal workers
• Transfer the Coast Guard to the Navy and to later back to DHS ("Unfurlough" Coast Guard staffers)
• Dems Boycott Gov't Shutdown Luncheon With Trump While Puerto Rico Partying Rages On
• Furloughed feds won't be RIFed if government shutdown extends past 30 days, OMB says
• Ocean City [MD ]Restaurant Offers Free Meals to Furloughed Government Employees During Shutdown
• Leaders nix recess with no shutdown deal in sight
• Brace yourself, federal employees: 'Reductions in force' are coming
• Mr. President, Declare a National Security Emergency
• Free pet food for federal workers
• 1,500 GoFundMe pages have been set up by furloughed government employees looking for help
• Furloughed mom faces choice of buying insulin or making mortgage payment
• Democrats Refuse to Meet With President Trump, Boycott Lunch
• Judge denies 'essential' federal workers' request to be paid during the shutdown
• As shutdown drags on, federal workers flock to food pantries
• Will the Media Ever Report the Real Story About the Government Shutdown?
• At the Puerto Rico theater that 'Hamilton' left behind, disappointment stands center stage
• Democrat Lawmakers Continue To Party In PR WIth Lobbyists Ignoring Americans
• The 7 Republicans who voted against back pay for furloughed workers

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• Freshman Democrats Turn on Pelosi Over Border Wall, Seek Deal with Trump
• VIDEO: 'ANGEL MOMS' and Victims of Illegal Immigrant Violence Storm Speaker Pelosi's Office
• West Virginia Republicans unveil plan to give $10M for Trump's wall
• The Democrats Will Never Agree to a Permanent Border Wall Because.. [Vanity]
• Charlie Daniels: Do You Know What Would Happen in Schumer-Pelosi's Ideal America?
• Samuel L. Jackson Rips Trump's Wall: 'Cough Up The Money Yourself, You Cheap (bleep)
• Migrant Border Crossing Movie 'American Dirt' in the Works From 'Blood Diamond' Writer
• ANGEL MOMS and Victims of Illegal Immigrant Violence at Pelosi's Office Chant "Build the Wall!"
• New U.S.-Bound Migrant Groups Set Off From Honduras
• LA teachers union advocates for illegals, then complains of overcrowded classrooms
• Nancy Pelosi Refuses to Meet with Angel Moms Protesting Inside Her Office
• Tantrums: Democrats Are Refusing to End the Shutdown by Boycotting Meetings at the White House
• Democrats Turn Down Deal-Making Lunch with Donald Trump
• Democrats boycott White House border security meeting
• Have You Called Your Congressman Yet? Build the wall!
• Video Shows Activists Scale Wall, Test Locked Doors at Nancy Pelosi's House
• Democrats can't back down on the wall because we called it racist, freshman Dem admits
• Build the invisible wall to complement the physical one
• Trump's Courageous Stand On Border Security Once Again Proves He's No Ordinary Politician
• Largest Group Of Illegal Aliens Enter Yuma Sector
• Trump's Visit To Texas Proved How Effective Border Walls Can Be
• The Left, the Wall, the Truth
• Conservative Activist Jumps Pelosi's Fence With Illegal Aliens to Prove a Vital Point (Photos)
• US military extends border support mission through end of September
• ABC/WaPo Poll: Support for Border Wall Soars Among Swing Voters

[exDemMom]

That depends on the type of contract. Contract personnel are more expensive than government employees. They do not get paid more, but the overhead is more. Plus, contractors can leave at any time. So if you are depending on them, they can cause much inconvenience.

My agency is not affected by the shutdown. Trump had the foresight to fund the DOD months ago.

[ROCKLOBSTER]

Not that I WANT people to lose their jobs

JOBS?!!!

These overpaid bureaucRATS don't work. We want these RATs off the gravy train, and forced into the thriving private sector, actually working for a living.

Government "workers" are the ultimate class of parasites.

[Starboard]

Same might could happen with this situation.

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Perhaps. But after Trump backed down on his stated commitment to “immediately declassify” the FISA docs I’m not so optimistic. That too was an opportunity to drain the swamp and strike at the deep state. It turned out to be a lost opportunity.

[Cheerio]

Unlike any of the recent Presidents, nearly everything Pres. Trump has done has been to help the American people and the DC cesspool cannot stand that.

Everyday I get up and wonder how DJT has survived when Pres Kennedy could not!!! I pray for his safety each and every day. BUT I refuse to pray for a nation that has turned it's back on the one and only God

[antidemoncrat]

When people say “God bless America” after we have let 60+ million babies be murdered I think “Really”.

[DeathBeforeDishonor1]

[pburgh01]

I liked the post where there were no tears cried by the average schlub government worker when coal miners, auto workers and construction workers are laid off. I say ..let'um starve, go get a real job.

The stereo-typical Federal government worker, kind of mirrors the average welfare recipient. Black, 40's, female, 2 or 3 bastard kids, up to their neck in CC payments and debt to pay for the weaves, nails, LCD TVs, expensive clothes and nights out with the girls. They sit all day long with a headset in their ears, looking Excel spreadsheets and basically wasting your money and being nasty to you on the 1-800-IMHERETOHELP gimmedat helpline at some alphabet agency. Federal government work is basically a giant affirmative action\retards jobs programs. Sucks being a Black, racist government workers doesn't it Laqunndisha?

[lapsus calami]

 

 

What's your point by comparing two separate situations that have different dynamics at play?

 

 

[Psalm 73]

"What's your point..."

Was not my point, not my original post, not even my reply.
Someone tagged me onto a reply to something else. So, I haven't an answer for you.

[rfp1234]

That's a radial plan!

[southernindymom]

My thoughts exactly!

[Starboard]

You talked about Trump paring down the size of the administrative bureaucracy. You used an analogy to make your point. I too used an analogy to make my point, which was to say that given a previous opportunity to drain the swamp (releasing the FISA docs) Trump didn’t follow through and do it. I’m sorry if that truth/reality offends you.

Its a case of wishful thinking versus reality. The FISA docs could have been the impetus to legitmately fire a bunch of people, but despite Trump’s rhetoric, the reality is the opportunity was lost.

It would be great if Trump would take this opportunity to reduce the civilian workforce but he passed on the last one and likely isn’t going to be pairing down the bureaucracy anytime soon.

[Starboard]

Please see my post #99 on the ‘Trump’s Shutdown’ thread. I should have included you in my reply to lapsus calami.