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Dems on House Committee Move to Strike 'God' Reference in Oath
Townhall.com ^ | January 30, 2019 | Leah Barkoukis

Posted on 01/30/2019 10:46:51 AM PST by Kaslin

The Democrat-controlled House Committee on Natural Resources may soon strike the reference to God in the oath given to witnesses testifying before the panel, according to a draft, Fox News reports.

Rather than including “so help you God,” at the end of the oath, it would instead read: "Do you solemnly swear or affirm, under penalty of law, that the testimony that you are about to give is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?">

The rules proposal places the words "so help you God" in red brackets, indicating they are slated to be cut. The words "under penalty of law" are in red text, indicating that Democrats propose to add that phrasing to the oath.

The draft rules also remove the phrase "his or her" throughout the document, changing those two pronouns to "their." The rules additionally modify all references to the committee's "Chairman" to instead refer only to the committee's "Chair."

Other rules changes relate to expanding the committee's authority over natural gas in Alaska and fossil-fuel resources.

While many federal oaths include the phrase "so help me God," some -- most notably the presidential oath of office -- do not. (FoxNews.com)

A vote will be taken on the new language by the committee this week and will take effect immediately if approved.

House Republican Conference Chairwoman Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., told Fox News she's not surprised by the move.

"They really have become the party of Karl Marx," she said.

Notably, the Democratic Party also attempted to remove reference to God in their party platform in 2012, only for it to be reinserted after backlash.



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To: Gay State Conservative

The only god they worship is ‘sodomy’. And all must bow.


41 posted on 01/30/2019 3:11:26 PM PST by a fool in paradise (Denounce DUAC - The Democrats Un-American Activists Committee)
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To: Kaslin

Then the Republicans can put it back when they get reelected.


42 posted on 01/30/2019 3:45:15 PM PST by Del Rapier
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To: SaveFerris

Definition of ‘politician’.

2
a
: a person engaged in party politics as a profession
b
often disparaging : a person primarily interested in political office for selfish or other narrow usually short-sighted reasons

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/politician

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Psalm 10:4:

“The wicked in his proud countenance does not seek God; God is in none of his thoughts.”


43 posted on 01/30/2019 4:09:40 PM PST by 444Flyer (John 3 Revelation 20 Joshua 24:15 Pick a side...)
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To: SaveFerris
EL, ELOAH [el, el-oh-ah]: God "mighty, strong, prominent" (Nehemiah 9:17; Psalm 139:19) – etymologically, El appears to mean “power” and “might” (Genesis 31:29). El is associated with other qualities, such as integrity (Numbers 23:19), jealousy (Deuteronomy 5:9), and compassion (Nehemiah 9:31), but the root idea of “might” remains.

ELOHIM [el-oh-heem]: God “Creator, Mighty and Strong” (Genesis 17:7; Jeremiah 31:33) – the plural form of Eloah, which accommodates the doctrine of the Trinity. From the Bible’s first sentence, the superlative nature of God’s power is evident as God (Elohim) speaks the world into existence (Genesis 1:1).

EL SHADDAI [el-shah-dahy]: “God Almighty,” “The Mighty One of Jacob” (Genesis 49:24; Psalm 132:2,5) – speaks to God’s ultimate power over all.

ADONAI [ˌædɒˈnaɪ; ah-daw-nahy]: “Lord” (Genesis 15:2; Judges 6:15) – used in place of YHWH, which was thought by the Jews to be too sacred to be uttered by sinful men. In the Old Testament, YHWH is more often used in God’s dealings with His people, while Adonai is used more when He deals with the Gentiles.

YHWH / YAHWEH / JEHOVAH [yah-way / ji-hoh-veh]: “LORD” (Deuteronomy 6:4; Daniel 9:14) – strictly speaking, the only proper name for God. Translated in English Bibles “LORD” (all capitals) to distinguish it from Adonai, “Lord.” The revelation of the name is given to Moses “I Am who I Am” (Exodus 3:14). This name specifies an immediacy, a presence. Yahweh is present, accessible, near to those who call on Him for deliverance (Psalm 107:13), forgiveness (Psalm 25:11) and guidance (Psalm 31:3).

YAHWEH-JIREH [yah-way-ji-reh]: "The Lord Will Provide" (Genesis 22:14) – the name memorialized by Abraham when God provided the ram to be sacrificed in place of Isaac.

YAHWEH-RAPHA [yah-way-raw-faw]: "The Lord Who Heals" (Exodus 15:26) – “I am Jehovah who heals you” both in body and soul. In body, by preserving from and curing diseases, and in soul, by pardoning iniquities.

YAHWEH-NISSI [yah-way-nee-see]: "The Lord Our Banner" (Exodus 17:15), where banner is understood to be a rallying place. This name commemorates the desert victory over the Amalekites in Exodus 17.

YAHWEH-M'KADDESH [yah-way-meh-kad-esh]: "The Lord Who Sanctifies, Makes Holy" (Leviticus 20:8; Ezekiel 37:28) – God makes it clear that He alone, not the law, can cleanse His people and make them holy.

YAHWEH-SHALOM [yah-way-shah-lohm]: "The Lord Our Peace" (Judges 6:24) – the name given by Gideon to the altar he built after the Angel of the Lord assured him he would not die as he thought he would after seeing Him.

YAHWEH-ELOHIM [yah-way-el-oh-him]: "LORD God" (Genesis 2:4; Psalm 59:5) – a combination of God’s unique name YHWH and the generic “Lord,” signifying that He is the Lord of Lords.

YAHWEH-TSIDKENU [yah-way-tzid-kay-noo]: "The Lord Our Righteousness” (Jeremiah 33:16) – As with YHWH-M’Kaddesh, it is God alone who provides righteousness (from the Hebrew word tsidkenu) to man, ultimately in the person of His Son, Jesus Christ, who became sin for us “that we might become the Righteousness of God in Him” (2 Corinthians 5:21).

YAHWEH-ROHI [yah-way-roh-hee]: "The Lord Our Shepherd" (Psalm 23:1) – After David pondered his relationship as a shepherd to his sheep, he realized that was exactly the relationship God had with him, and so he declares, “Yahweh-Rohi is my Shepherd. I shall not want” (Psalm 23:1).

YAHWEH-SHAMMAH [yah-way-sham-mahw]: "The Lord Is There” (Ezekiel 48:35) – the name ascribed to Jerusalem and the Temple there, indicating that the once-departed glory of the Lord (Ezekiel 8—11) had returned (Ezekiel 44:1-4).

YAHWEH-SABAOTH [yah-way-sah-bah-ohth]: "The Lord of Hosts" (Isaiah 1:24; Psalm 46:7) – Hosts means “hordes,” both of angels and of men. He is Lord of the host of heaven and of the inhabitants of the earth, of Jews and Gentiles, of rich and poor, master and slave. The name is expressive of the majesty, power, and authority of God and shows that He is able to accomplish what He determines to do.

EL ELYON [el-el-yohn]: “Most High" (Deuteronomy 26:19) – derived from the Hebrew root for “go up” or “ascend,” so the implication is of that which is the very highest. El Elyon denotes exaltation and speaks of absolute right to lordship.

EL ROI [el-roh-ee]: "God of Seeing" (Genesis 16:13) – the name ascribed to God by Hagar, alone and desperate in the wilderness after being driven out by Sarah (Genesis 16:1-14). When Hagar met the Angel of the Lord, she realized she had seen God Himself in a theophany. She also realized that El Roi saw her in her distress and testified that He is a God who lives and sees all.

EL-OLAM [el-oh-lahm]: "Everlasting God" (Psalm 90:1-3) – God’s nature is without beginning or end, free from all constraints of time, and He contains within Himself the very cause of time itself. “From everlasting to everlasting, You are God.”

EL-GIBHOR [el-ghee-bohr]: “Mighty God” (Isaiah 9:6) – the name describing the Messiah, Christ Jesus, in this prophetic portion of Isaiah. As a powerful and mighty warrior, the Messiah, the Mighty God, will accomplish the destruction of God’s enemies and rule with a rod of iron (Revelation 19:15).

https://www.gotquestions.org/names-of-God.html

44 posted on 01/30/2019 4:09:55 PM PST by 444Flyer (John 3 Revelation 20 Joshua 24:15 Pick a side...)
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To: SaveFerris
They belong in Red Communist China. Who continue striking the name of God down as well.

Pastor Wang Yi, currently a prisoner of the Communist Party in China for preaching about..God.

This is a couple minutes from one of his sermons before he was arrested. It is just awesome!

“May every street know the name of Jesus”

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=pastor+wang++sermon+youtube&view=detail&mid=BE2162EE27CBA14DAF86BE2162EE27CBA14DAF86&FORM=VIRE

Pray for our brother placed in chains for preaching the gospel in December.

45 posted on 01/30/2019 4:36:50 PM PST by 444Flyer (John 3 Revelation 20 Joshua 24:15 Pick a side...)
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To: 444Flyer

I’ll check it in a bit.


46 posted on 01/30/2019 4:44:36 PM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: xrmusn

Testifying falsely under oath is a chargeable crime of “perjury” and it is a federal crime. If it had been enforced during the Obama regime, most of his people would still be in jail: Jarrett, Rice, Powers, Hillary, Rhodes, Ruland, possibly Malley, Kerry, Holder, Lynch, Lerner, Kosisken, etc.


47 posted on 01/30/2019 11:42:06 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

I understand that and agree with you....


48 posted on 01/31/2019 1:06:44 AM PST by xrmusn (6/98"Getting rich as a Politician means doing something illegal''(trunc) HS Truman)
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To: Kaslin

as of Jan 31, 2019 there is no Law, no accountability,
no justice and NO Constitution in the USA,
“thanks” to the stinking, lying GOP and the
seditious DNC/IslamicState.


49 posted on 01/31/2019 2:21:05 AM PST by Diogenesis ( WWG1WGA)
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To: Diogenesis

Truth


50 posted on 01/31/2019 2:32:33 AM PST by combat_boots (God bless Israel and all who protect and defend her! Merry Christmas! In God We Trust!)
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To: AlanGreenSpam
...which defies the notion of “Separation of Church and State.”

No flame; but WHO's 'notion'?

51 posted on 01/31/2019 3:57:40 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: JME_FAN
...where everything is an abstract construct.

Oh really?

52 posted on 01/31/2019 3:59:52 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Kaslin

Remember, this is the party that booed God.


53 posted on 01/31/2019 6:19:09 AM PST by Little Ray (Freedom Before Security!)
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To: butlerweave
"They think if they can take away God , Guns and Freedom they’ll win."

Well, I don't see anyone stopping them... So, I guess they will..! :(

54 posted on 01/31/2019 6:28:18 AM PST by unread (Joe McCarthy was right.......)
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To: bk1000

Don’t forget the narcotics, the dimocraps really get upset when you mess with their drugs...


55 posted on 01/31/2019 6:35:33 AM PST by unread (Joe McCarthy was right.......)
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To: AlanGreenSpam

An oath is licit, and an act of virtue, under certain conditions. It is, in effect, an act of homage rendered by the creature to the wisdom and omnipotence of the Creator—it is therefore an act of the virtue of religion; moreover, it is an excellent way of affording men security in their mutual intercourse.

It is justified in the Old and New Testament; the faithful and the Church from Apostolic times to the present day have employed oaths; and canonical legislation and doctrinal decrees have affirmed their lawfulness. Improper use is often made of oaths, and the habit of swearing may easily lead to abuses and even to perjury.

In counselling men “not to swear at all” (Matthew 5:34) Christ meant, as the Fathers and ecclesiastical writers explain, to be so truthful that men could believe them without need of oath to confirm what they say. He did not forbid the use of oaths under proper conditions, when necessary to satisfy others of our truthfulness.

These conditions are (Jeremiah 4:2): (1) Judgment, or careful and reverent consideration of the necessity or utility of the oath; for it would be showing a want of the respect due to God, to invoke Him as witness in trivial matters; . . . To swear without a sufficient reason, being an idle use of God’s name, is a venial sin; (2) truth, for what we affirm should be in conformity with the truth. Consequently in case of an assertory oath, our affirmation must be truthful, and in a promissory oath [i.e. wedding vows] we must have the intention of doing what we are promising. . . (3) justice requiring: (a) in the case of an assertory oath, that it be lawful to make the affirmation which one wishes to corroborate . . .

btw - this is the Catholic view.


56 posted on 01/31/2019 7:42:42 AM PST by Daffy
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To: SaveFerris; All
" Democrats are of the spirit of antichrist and may are already be under the beginnings of the Strong Delusion."

Yes they are. And I think it is progressing exponentially these days.

There is the main antichrist who will install himself in the Temple to be worshiped as God.

but as we know from John 2:18

18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
IMO Obama is one of the "many antichrists" along with Hillary, Mueller and scores of others.

They all exhibit that they are embedded with the spirit of the antichrist

Precursors of the Antichrist

This thread exhibits the use of the death of a thousand cuts and the frog not knowing the nice comfortable water he is sitting in going to boil soon.

(I took the liberty of inserting my opinion into the quote of yours from your post)

57 posted on 01/31/2019 10:24:09 AM PST by Syncro (Facts is Facts)
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To: AlanGreenSpam
"First of all, we need to ask ourselves, which “God” is the Pledge of Allegiance referring to? Is it a Christian God? Is it American Indian Gods (god of the wind, gods of the sun, etc. - pantheism)? Is it Buddha?"

Back in those days because pretty much Christianity was the only "religion" and the use of the word religion referred to denominations within Christianity.

There was a Baptist church that wanted to be the denomination (religion) that was America's religion.

Hence the wording in dispute.

58 posted on 01/31/2019 10:28:27 AM PST by Syncro (Facts is Facts)
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To: Syncro

[ (I took the liberty of inserting my opinion into the quote of yours from your post) ]

It’s all good. Pretty much agree.

I’m waiting for Barack to high-tail it to some European country and become their political “savior”.

I’m mostly joking.

Mostly.


59 posted on 01/31/2019 1:22:05 PM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: SaveFerris

Possible

Maybe he is lobbying for UN Secretary

Z
But he would get much more adulation in your senerio


60 posted on 01/31/2019 1:40:01 PM PST by Syncro (Facts is Facts)
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