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Posted on 02/09/2019 7:07:46 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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The Swiss collectively have more common sense than most of Europe.
In 2016, there was a referendum pushed by liberals that called for adults to be paid an unconditional monthly income, whether they worked or not.
The supporters camp had suggested a monthly income of 2,500 Swiss francs (USD $2,555) for adults and also SFr625 for each child.
The amounts reflected the high cost of living in Switzerland. It is not clear how the plan would have affected people on higher salaries.
The supporters had also argued that since work was increasingly automated, fewer jobs were available for workers.
The Swiss OVERWHELMINGLY rejected it 77% to 23%.
I bet New York and California would actually VOTE for such a proposal with a similar referendum ever came up.
My SIL has been given all her living expenses for over 40 years, most of them from her parents and now from the government. She has not worked at all over those years.
I wonder if these “researchers” would care to see the results? Every bit as bad as you can imagine. One of her 4 husbands did not work for 10 years - no need to obviously. When they divorced, he got a job within a week and has worked continuously since.
Hunger is a great motivator.
You may be right and that’s idiotic to do for any state.
But you that revel being in red states should also check to see what states give MORE to the fed govt than get.
A bunch of southern red states take a LOT MORE than they give.
NY gives MORE than they GET.
I’d say that makes those states “welfare states”, the whole population.
THAT’S a terrible thing.
RE: One of her 4 husbands did not work for 10 years
What did they live on? I mean what kind of program did they qualify for that pays the rent, food, clothing, travel and the big one -— HOUSING ?
https://wallethub.com/edu/states-most-least-dependent-on-the-federal-government/2700/
It’s actually MUCH WORST than I thought, with 9 of the 10 most grubby states being southern or mid western.
Stop mooching guys!!
We NYers could help pay down the federal debt if you paid your share!!
One suggestion was made in a speculative fiction story I read many years ago, in that everyone, at birth, was endowed with a certain number of stock shares, selected from among those traded on the NYSE or other widely recognized bourses, and they derived a basic income from the return on those shares. If they wanted more than the pittance that return paid, they were encouraged to go into some kind of entrepreneurship, and CREATE a viable company, which would then make an Initial Public Offering, and rather than purchase of the shares for speculation, the shares were distributed to the new arrivals on the planet as they were in turn endowed with a basic number of shares for subsistence.
The ownership rights in the stock holdings were the source of the cash flow that supported all the population, not the taxation and distribution by the central government.
Are you speaking in terms of number of dollars or percentage of total dollars?
It makes the recipients happy oh. But what about all the donors, working so these folks don’t? What about their happiness?
Her mother bought her a house and gave her money. When she got a new car she gave her old one.
On the positive side, she never gave her (and the deadbeat hubby) more than just enough to eat & keep the power on. pretty bare existence. Yet, neither would get any sort of a job.
Yahoo free money. No working for me. Really great judges of the majority of humans. A half decent psychologist could have given you the percentages before you even started. It’s all butterflies and rainbows in some people’s heads.
Oh yeah...the govn gives me free money so I think I will run out and get a job.../s
Hmmm, they’re gonna pay us for doing nothing. What do you say we go out tomorrow and look for a job. Nah? Ah, okay. Maybe next month.
"Donors," you call them! That's rich!
They're tax-slaves.
Regards,
Wow! do ya think? Are they stupid or are we stupid for believing their stupid
osh - give people free stuff and they don’t voluntarily work for that which they can get for free....I’m shocked!
Stupidity always wins over common sense. This will be proposed again and again, and they will claim that the Finn thing worked.
It is a colossaly stupid idea, and anyone who proposes it is an idiot.
Amazing, a person who is getting money monthly is not going to seek work. Democrats, who will work, if you give every citizens $2400 a month? As my friend and I were discussing it, we both would shut our businesses (he is a general contractor with 14 people employed) and I’m a computer services with 10 employees and take our families boating...
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