Posted on 03/10/2019 8:04:01 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
SHANGHAI (Reuters) - China’s aviation regulator said on Monday it had ordered Chinese airlines to suspend their Boeing Co 737 MAX aircraft operations by 6 p.m. (5.00 a.m. ET) following a deadly crash of a 737 MAX 8 operated by Ethiopian Airlines.
An Ethiopian Airlines 737 Max 8 bound for Nairobi crashed minutes after take-off on Sunday, killing all 157 people on board.
It was the second crash of the 737 MAX, the latest version of Boeing’s workhorse narrowbody jet that first entered service in 2017.
In October, a 737 MAX flown by Indonesian budget carrier Lion Air flying from Jakarta on a domestic flight crashed 13 minutes after take-off, killing all 189 passengers and crew on board.
The Civil Aviation Administration of China (CAAC) said in a statement it would notify airlines as to when they could resume flying the jets after contacting Boeing and the U.S. Federal Aviation Administration to ensure flight safety.
“Given that two accidents both involved newly delivered Boeing 737-8 planes and happened during take-off phase, they have some degree of similarity,” the CAAC said, adding that the order was in line with its principle of zero-tolerance on safety harzards.
The cause of the Indonesian crash is still being investigated. A preliminary report issued in November, before the cockpit voice recorder was recovered, focused on airline maintenance and training and the response of a Boeing anti-stall system to a recently replaced sensor but did not give a reason for the crash.
Chinese airlines have 96 737 MAX jets in service, the state company regulator said on Weibo.
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They’re doing it because it’s Boeing. The planes are safe.
Who makes Boeings? USA or England?
Someone will start accusing the manufacturer of sabotage.
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If it ain’t Boeing, I ain’t going.
Chinese SABOTAGE?
And you know this how??
How many of these planes in first-world airline fleets have had problems? Not just crashes, but any problems after take off. Is this a design error, maintenance error, or pilot error?
Until they figure it out, if it’s Boeing I ain’t going.
Reminds me of when the first 737 Models had the Rudder issues with two Fatal Crashes and a couple of near crashes before they figured out the problem.
China, of course.
From last fall: "Boeing's China plant to start operations in December" "Boeing Co will start operations at its 737 completion plant in China next month" https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-boeing/boeings-china-plant-to-start-operations-in-december-idUSKCN1N7157
Any other questions you need answered about the 737? Any questions about where the Airbus Mobile factory is?
They’re doing it because it’s Boeing. The planes are safe.
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The two planes that went down certainly weren’t safe. Investigators need to determine why and correct the problem(s) whether mechanical, systems, and/or pilot related. It’s actually wise to temporarily stand them down.
Something to think about before jumping to any conclusion.
Indonesian investigators said on Wednesday a Lion Air Boeing 737 jet that plunged into the sea, killing 189 people onboard, was not airworthy on a flight the day before it crashed on Oct. 29.
The Oct. 28 flight from Bali to Jakarta had experienced similar technical issues to the doomed flight the next day from Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang, said Nurcahyo Utomo, head of Indonesia’s national transport safety committee (KNKT).
The pilot of the Oct. 28 flight chose to press on to Jakarta after shutting down the plane’s anti-stall system, Utomo said.
“This is the basis of our recommendation to Lion Air. In our view, the plane was not airworthy,” he told a news conference in Jakarta.
Too much of a coincidence and too many similarities to ignore. The new device and system in Boeing seems to misread climb and automatically correct it, resulting in a nose dive. Boeing needs to investigate.
American Airlines took 14 737-800s out of service per a story dated March 7 - 3 days before this crash.
Southwest had a problem with its first commercial outing with the plane https://thepointsguy.com/2017/10/first-sw-737-max-breaks-down/
Southwest has also ordered cockpit display modifications because they don't have confidence in the Boeing systems. https://theaircurrent.com/aviation-safety/southwest-airlines-is-adding-new-angle-of-attack-indicators-to-its-737-max-fleet/
If Boeing is burying their heads in the sand, they need to fire their crisis management team and start over.
Lawyers will be circling like sharks.
This what happens when you fly by computer, and the computer has primary control. Way too much can go wrong. We are not talking about a video game here. We are talking about real lives.
I will skip it for the moment. Two similar crashes are suspicious. I am bothered that Boeing deployed functionality that was not documented and thus no one was trained, warned, etc. very damning oversight.
Boeing for years refused to admit that the 737s had a hard over rudder problem. IIRC there were two or three fatals directly involving the defect.
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