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China orders its airlines to suspend use of Boeing 737 Max aircraft
Reuters ^ | MARCH 10, 2019 / 7:55 PM | Josh Horwitz, John Ruwitch

Posted on 03/10/2019 8:04:01 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

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To: Erik Latranyi
...not to mention Ethiopia is not even a Muslim country ...

Thanks for trying to bring down facts to the thread Erik, but unfortunately you’re fighting against the tide. Once upon a time there was intelligent debate. Nowadays not so much - with the only saving grace being that at least they are not Liberals. Just goes to show that the degradation of exceptionalism affects both the high and the low. It may affect the Liberals in more obvious ways, but even in ‘our’ side it has still had its effects.

In the same way JFK and Gary Becker (conservative yes, but he had some economics ideas on the welfare state that older Dems latched on) must be spinning in their graves once they see what has happened to the Democratic Party; for the GOP President Ronald Reagan and Milton Friedman (Friedman included because he really was pro small government) must be spinning just as fast when they look at the ‘modern’ Republicans. To be honest, Republicans in the past decade and a half couldn’t even beat 1960s Democrats in terms of conservatism, but let me stop here lest I get zotted for speaking what many must feel deep inside even though they dare not say it ...

On Ethiopian - the airline had one of the best safety records in the world, it was flown by competent pilots with thousands of hours on the 737, and the plane itself was less than four months old. It crashes five or six months after a similar Max went down, and both indicated vertical speed anomaly. In the first it was hinted there was something wrong with the automatic AOA compensation, and we will see what the final reports on that (and the current) accidents are. The country is not Muslim (and, like Kenya, is one of the US’ main allies in fighting the type of Islamic radicals on that part of Africa). The Ethiopians are very professional with close ties to Israel.

But why let facts get in the way. It is a ‘shit hole country’ anyway (actual comment on FR).

41 posted on 03/11/2019 5:06:16 AM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: Erik Latranyi

Moral of the story: Wait a couple of years to fly on a new production aircraft.


42 posted on 03/11/2019 5:06:46 AM PDT by HighSierra5
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To: Reno89519

Southwest is too dependent on them to voluntarily take them out of service. On the other hand, Southwest has been having labor problems with their mechanics recently.


43 posted on 03/11/2019 5:11:08 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: Starcitizen

Welcome to FR, Noob.

You might try using Google before posting.


44 posted on 03/11/2019 5:13:50 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: spetznaz

You are absolutely right. So many on FR are ignorant a-holes who give conservatism a bad name.

There is a reason why it says “Loose lips sink ships” before you post a comment.

FR has been used many times to paint us in a negative light. We should be more mindful of what we post. We can be tough, bold and use bare knuckles....but let us get the facts right.

People who posted the things above about Ethiopia probably are not smart enough to find it on a map. They sicken me and should either learn to be more mindful or be removed from FR.


45 posted on 03/11/2019 5:13:53 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party is now a hate-mob)
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To: House Atreides

There are two additional options: terrorism, though not necessarily Islamist, and sabotage.


46 posted on 03/11/2019 5:17:27 AM PDT by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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To: Sequoyah101
Gibbs' Rules

...from the NCIS TV series:

https://hiddenremote.com/2017/01/05/gibbs-rules-guide/
47 posted on 03/11/2019 5:39:55 AM PDT by budj (combat vet, 2nd of 3 generations)
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To: Erik Latranyi
At one time, FR was a place where those knowledgeable on a subject would help others understand events.

Even in the beginning one had to know who was credible, and ignore the ignorant.

Nothing has changed, except many of those with real knowledge have been purged.

48 posted on 03/11/2019 5:57:24 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Make American Intelligence Great Again.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

At the height of TWA’s heydays Ethiopia hired the top ten or so Of TWA’s Line Captains and a hand full of flight op folks and tasked them to form a national airline which mirrored TWA’s success.
They succeeded


49 posted on 03/11/2019 6:06:14 AM PDT by Robe (A nation can survive its fools and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.)
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To: PghBaldy

Three crashed in one year with a newer plane can about kill the program.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Havilland_Comet#Accidents_and_incidents


50 posted on 03/11/2019 6:09:06 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Bogey78O

Stupid post.


51 posted on 03/11/2019 6:10:09 AM PDT by Tea Party Terrorist (A bad peace is better than a good war.)
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To: irishjuggler

Another very stupid, stupid post.


52 posted on 03/11/2019 6:10:22 AM PDT by Tea Party Terrorist (A bad peace is better than a good war.)
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To: Starcitizen

Ethiopia is not Muslim. In fact, one of the first Christian churches outside of the Holy Land was in Ethiopia.


53 posted on 03/11/2019 6:13:06 AM PDT by Tea Party Terrorist (A bad peace is better than a good war.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

So African and Chinese and Indonesian pilots can’t fly them properly?


54 posted on 03/11/2019 6:13:12 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: PAR35
Southwest is too dependent on them to voluntarily take them out of service. On the other hand, Southwest has been having labor problems with their mechanics recently.

How many have Southwest pilots crashed? And SW is having a problem with their unions.

55 posted on 03/11/2019 6:15:41 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Is it possible that the only 737s crashing are ones that were built in China?


56 posted on 03/11/2019 6:17:22 AM PDT by Tucker39 ("It ishttps://y impossible to rightly govern a nation without God and the Bible." George Washington)
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To: Erik Latranyi

I could be wrong. I tossed out an opinion right before going to bed based on my opinion of Boeing engineering and China’s usual way of playing against American tech firms.

Thanks for doing your part to help me better understand the events by simply insulting me.


57 posted on 03/11/2019 6:19:48 AM PDT by Bogey78O (So far so good.)
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To: lee martell

http://www.airframer.com/aircraft_detail.html?model=B737

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-12-13/boeing-s-first-china-737-plant-to-open-in-shadow-of-trade-war


58 posted on 03/11/2019 6:27:31 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: Bogey78O
It is unwise these days to equate the use of products from any major American corporation with patriotism. As we have seen over and over again, the Left's diversity crusades and other nonsense have damaged American output to the point that such a case can't be made universally, as it could have been fifty years ago. Large American companies have become international power centers on their own, and are not entitled to automatic patriotic loyalty from citizens just because they are headquartered here.

Initially, these crashes appear to result from the 737 MAX's design and software changes from previous models and a possible documentation and training screw-up by Boeing.

59 posted on 03/11/2019 6:48:10 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: budj

Yeah, found it. I don’t watch network tv or much tv at all.


60 posted on 03/11/2019 7:24:37 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchanged our dreams for survival. We just hava few days that don't suck.)
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