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China orders its airlines to suspend use of Boeing 737 Max aircraft
Reuters ^ | MARCH 10, 2019 / 7:55 PM | Josh Horwitz, John Ruwitch

Posted on 03/10/2019 8:04:01 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Time to switch to IL-76s.


61 posted on 03/11/2019 7:57:45 AM PDT by Paal Gulli
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

IF this is the same problem encountered by Lion Air, then this sounds like the crew didn’t react fast enough to turn off the trim switches. Everyone in the MAX community knew what to do only days after the first (similar) crash. Sounds like this could be the intersection of an airplane issue, and a training issue.


62 posted on 03/11/2019 9:42:36 AM PDT by zipper (In their heart of hearts, every Democrat is a communist)
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To: Erik Latranyi
"Going through life as a dumb-ass will not go unchallenged on Free Republic'

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I like your style.

And post 34 was great too.

I remember the days when all the real experts on airliners, and also on those Naval collisions at sea a few years ago would go back and forth with REAL inside knowledge, and all the rest of us had the good luck to read what you folks knew. It was a real learning experience for most of us.

Keep it up.

63 posted on 03/11/2019 10:37:54 AM PDT by a little elbow grease (... to err is human, to admit it divine ...)
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To: Erik Latranyi

Agree and thanks for the reminder I frequently learn more from intelligent FR comments than any other source.


64 posted on 03/11/2019 10:47:51 AM PDT by JerryBlackwell (some animals are more equal than others)
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To: Erik Latranyi

Good posts...I have found that it doesn’t take much effort to sort out the FReepers who actually know what they are talking about from the nutters who just like to yap.


65 posted on 03/11/2019 10:55:42 AM PDT by Cuttnhorse (Never fear the cow)
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To: Rebelbase
YIKES!!

The Comet was involved in 26 hull-loss accidents, including 13 fatal crashes which resulted in 426 fatalities.

De Havilland should have stuck with their Twin Otter!

66 posted on 03/11/2019 10:58:30 AM PDT by Cuttnhorse (Never fear the cow)
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De Havilland created the Dash-8, which is nearly bullet-proof as a commuter aircraft and had a perfect safety record until a novice pilot in Buffalo over-reacted to the shaker-stick under known icing conditions and dumped 50 passengers into a residential area.


67 posted on 03/11/2019 11:31:59 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party is now a hate-mob)
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To: Erik Latranyi

I recall that crash...and the Dash, and Twin Otter are incredible aircraft. I have a LOT of passenger miles in a company Twin Otter in South America were we flew on a regular basis into a couple of very scary strips at over 13,000 feet elevation. I did love the Twin Otter.

I worked in eastern Africa for two years on a large mine development project and the company bought a Dash-8 for the 2-hour flight from Dar to the mine site.

We originally had Canadian pilots and the plan was to recruit and train national pilots with commercial experience to take over flight ops.
After two years, our flight group could not certify a single national pilot to fly the Dash. A couple potential guys were national 737 pilots!!
I really worry about flying some of the developing countries’ carriers.


68 posted on 03/11/2019 11:51:52 AM PDT by Cuttnhorse (Never fear the cow)
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I worry that since we have a lack of good military pilots leaving the service, we must rely on other sources for entry-level commercial pilots....


69 posted on 03/11/2019 12:14:42 PM PDT by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party is now a hate-mob)
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To: 1Old Pro

Southwest got lucky and started replacing the faulty Boeing equipment before the Lion Air crash. The mechanics were taking extra care (and making management unhappy in doing so) during the contract negotiations.

Here’s a Wall Street Journal story from last fall:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/southwest-replaced-flight-control-sensors-of-the-kind-implicated-in-lion-air-crash-1542330689

Southwest pilots were also unhappy that Boeing hadn’t told them about the software changes.


70 posted on 03/11/2019 2:53:33 PM PDT by PAR35
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