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An Entire Methodist Confirmation Class Rejects the Church Over Anti-Gay Policies
Patheos ^ | April 30, 2019 | SARAHBETH CAPLIN

Posted on 05/15/2019 5:45:57 PM PDT by Salman

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To: Jane Long

Actually, UMC REJECTED the lgbtq rights message, mostly because of the African and Filipino church delegates.


41 posted on 05/15/2019 7:22:33 PM PDT by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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To: IrishBrigade

That wouldn’t fly in my church. If it did I would no longer be a member.


42 posted on 05/15/2019 7:24:06 PM PDT by Mom MD
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To: Flaming Conservative

Yes. I know that.

Now waiting to see what these squish USA churches do.


43 posted on 05/15/2019 7:26:30 PM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: Salman

44 posted on 05/15/2019 7:36:35 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Salman
Only 8 kids in the confirmation class.

When I went through confirmation there were at least 60 kids in my class.

But that was a Catholic Parish in 1972 that had 3 standing room only masses on Sunday.

That world doesn’t exist anymore. Sadly.

45 posted on 05/15/2019 7:38:59 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit)
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To: Salman

Translation: “Eight brainwashed kids respond correctly to their programming.”


46 posted on 05/15/2019 7:39:02 PM PDT by Antoninus ("In Washington, swamp drain you.")
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To: Destroyer Sailor
I wish you well and hope you find a church that you are comfortable with.

I don't. I hope they find the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Him.

Full disclosure: I was UMC, almost became a missionary, was training for diaconal ministry when I left and became LCMS. I am glad the UMC hasn't bent to the homosexual will (yet), but I want to be where Christ is, whether UMC, LCMS, or elsewhere, and I want the catechumens to bend the knee to Christ.

47 posted on 05/15/2019 7:42:05 PM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: Salman

The church is immoral?

Wisdom FRom the mouths of babes?


48 posted on 05/15/2019 8:29:50 PM PDT by Taxman (We will never be a truly free people so long as we have the income tax and the IRS.)
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To: Salman

Obviously these kids are not ready to receive the Holy Spirit as they have chosen being PC about sex over the word of God and his Son, Jesus Christ. Better they not be confirmed right now. Wait until they are more mature. Do not sin against the Holy Spirit.


49 posted on 05/15/2019 8:35:45 PM PDT by Gumdrop
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To: Salman

They should read a Bible someday and then obey God’s teaching. The scriptures are very clear about the sin of homosexuality.


50 posted on 05/15/2019 9:05:58 PM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves. Socialism is governmental theft!)
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To: Salman
The leadership of the UMC is pro-homo as you put it; but the common man is not, and the structure of the Methodist Church is such that they have to vote for such changes. They voted it down.

The adults behind this pathetic exercise in child abuse is as yet unknown.

51 posted on 05/15/2019 11:00:15 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard (Power is more often surrendered than seized.)
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To: Salman

My guess would be that one of them has a single-parent situation, and that parent socialized within the group to introduce this idea and convince the 13/14 year old’s of this stance. Simple but effective brainwashing.


52 posted on 05/15/2019 11:00:53 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: Salman

It is authored by a friendly atheist.

This culture may have surpassed Sodom.


53 posted on 05/15/2019 11:24:57 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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To: Salman

How to know your church has been corrupted by social justice.


54 posted on 05/16/2019 6:07:48 AM PDT by tbw2
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To: IrishBrigade

There is actually a schism in the Methodist church over homosexuality. This could be a political grandstanding - moral peacocking - event by the church leadership.
The liberal church is using the kids as props to denounce the church leadership.

Conservative Christians Just Retook the United Methodist Church
The mainline denomination voted on Tuesday to toughen its teachings against homosexuality, same-sex marriage, and LGBTQ clergy. It must now decide whether it will stay together.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2019/02/united-methodists-fracture-lgbt-plan-rejected/583693/


55 posted on 05/16/2019 6:10:42 AM PDT by tbw2
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To: Salman

Most definitely there are activist adults directing this behind the scenes.

On another note, it doesn’t sound like these little cretins even qualify for confirmation if they don’t subscribed to biblical doctrine on homosexuality.


56 posted on 05/16/2019 6:27:26 AM PDT by fwdude (Think about it: Blacks were made slaves in Africa, but were made free men in America.)
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To: A strike
Mocking God

in HIS House ?!!!

The house may bear His name, but it is NOT His house.

It is Satan's house.

57 posted on 05/16/2019 6:28:35 AM PDT by fwdude (Think about it: Blacks were made slaves in Africa, but were made free men in America.)
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To: Destroyer Sailor
….all I can say is Bye. I wish you well and hope you find a church that you are comfortable with.

Not me!

I'd drag them out of the oncoming traffic and MAKE them read what the BIBLE says about HOMOs!!!


 

A BIBLICAL Message about homosexuality



 
Genesis 13:13
Now the men of Sodom were wicked and were sinning greatly against the LORD.

Genesis 18:20-21
20. Then the LORD said, "The outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is so great and
their sin so grievous
21. that I will go down and see if what they have done is as bad as the outcry that has reached me. If not, I will know."

Genesis 19:4-7
4. Before they had gone to bed, all the men
from every part of the city of Sodom--both young and old--surrounded the house.
5. They called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them
."
6. Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind him
7. and said, "No, my friends. Don't do this wicked thing.


Leviticus niv

18:22 Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable.

20:13 If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.

 
 


Psalms 12:8 The wicked freely strut about when what is vile is honored among men.

Doonesbury Cartoon for Feb/08/2013

Isaiah 3:9 The look on their faces testifies against them;

they parade their sin like Sodom; they do not hide it.

Woe to them! They have brought disaster upon themselves.

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2 Peter 2:13b Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight.

They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.


Ezekiel 16:49-50
49. "`Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.
50. They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen.


Romans 1     New American Bible (Revised Edition) (NABRE)
 
 18 The wrath of God is indeed being revealed from heaven against every impiety and wickedness of those who suppress the truth by their wickedness. 19 For what can be known about God is evident to them, because God made it evident to them. 20 Ever since the creation of the world, his invisible attributes of eternal power and divinity have been able to be understood and perceived in what he has made. As a result, they have no excuse; 21 for although they knew God they did not accord him glory as God or give him thanks. Instead, they became vain in their reasoning, and their senseless minds were darkened. 22 While claiming to be wise, they became fools 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for the likeness of an image of mortal man or of birds or of four-legged animals or of snakes.
 

24 Therefore, God handed them over to impurity through the lusts of their hearts for the mutual degradation of their bodies. 25 They exchanged the truth of God for a lie and revered and worshiped the creature rather than the creator, who is blessed forever. Amen. 26 Therefore, God handed them over to degrading passions. Their females exchanged natural relations for unnatural, 27 and the males likewise gave up natural relations with females and burned with lust for one another. Males did shameful things with males and thus received in their own persons the due penalty for their perversity. 28 And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God handed them over to their undiscerning mind to do what is improper. 29 They are filled with every form of wickedness, evil, greed, and malice; full of envy, murder, rivalry, treachery, and spite. 


2 Peter 2

1. But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction on themselves.
2. Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute.
3. In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.
4. For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell, putting them into gloomy dungeons to be held for judgment;
5. if he did not spare the ancient world when he brought the flood on its ungodly people, but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others;
6. if he condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah by burning them to ashes, and made them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly;
7. and if he rescued Lot, a righteous man, who was distressed by the filthy lives of lawless men
8. (for that righteous man, living among them day after day, was tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard)--
9. if this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue godly men from trials and to hold the unrighteous for the day of judgment, while continuing their punishment.
10. This is especially true of those who follow the corrupt desire of the sinful nature and despise authority. Bold and arrogant, these men are not afraid to slander celestial beings;
11. yet even angels, although they are stronger and more powerful, do not bring slanderous accusations against such beings in the presence of the Lord.
12. But these men blaspheme in matters they do not understand. They are like brute beasts, creatures of instinct, born only to be caught and destroyed, and like beasts they too will perish.
13. They will be paid back with harm for the harm they have done.
Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.



But there IS hope!!!

1 Corinthians 6:9-11

9. Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived:
Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders
10. nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
11. And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.


If you could NOT change, you would be in most pitiful shape...

 
 
 
 
 
 
 


The Health Risks of gay sex.

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
We are living in a Genesis 19:9 world...
 

"Get out of our way,” they replied.
“This fellow came here as a foreigner, and now he wants to play the judge!
We’ll treat you worse than them.”
They kept bringing pressure on Lot and moved forward to break down the door.
 
 
 

58 posted on 05/16/2019 3:22:09 PM PDT by Elsie
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