Ozone layer: Banned CFCs traced to China say scientists [China cheating on Montreal Protocols]

BBC ^ | 22 May 2019 | By Matt McGrath Environment correspondent

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[Red Badger]

There’s one in the North as well...............

[oldtech]

CFCs as refrigerants seemed to be considered bad mainly because they were cheap, effective, & widely available. They said CFCs were depleting the ozone layer. It’s my understanding that the ozone layer is self-replenishing. People in charge of such things wouldn’t lie to us, now would they? Seems to me that a lot of this stuff leads right back to the old saying that says...”follow the money”.

[Rebelbase]

” China is a developing country, and has committed to review its emissions and climate obligations sometime around 2030!”

I thought they’ve said that there would be cats and dogs living together and mass hysteria by then?

[escapefromboston]

Environmentalists are such phonies (even if you agree with their view point) . It’s not western countries causing all the pollution. It’s China and India. They should get slapped with tariffs until they get up to code.

[dsc]

“Was there ever a time when there wasn’t one?”

This was debunked decades ago. The ozone hole expands and contracts on its own schedule. The “scientists” discovered it in an expanding phase, and decided something was destroying the ozone.

[datricker]

I wasn't aware - although upon a very quick search it seems to be a bit of a different deal

Climate science news is difficult to know what is real science, propaganda or honest naive attempts to begin to understand a very complex thing and failing. Thanks for the correction

[Vaquero]

You were spot on with the kind of crap the UN pulls……that is, how it benefits socialist nations over capitalist nations. Why are we still in the UN and why is the UN still in America ??

[Vaquero]

Clinton? More. He’s the responsible party. The ‘adult’ in the room.

[samtheman]

At least they aren’t cheating on the Paris climate accords.

Why? Because according to the Paris accords, China is a developing country, and has committed to review its emissions and climate obligations sometime around 2030!

This is the main fact being covered up by the Goebbels Warming people, that the 2 biggest "greenhouse gas" producers, India and China, won't do ANYTHING for AT LEAST 12 years and then, after the 12 years, we have to trust them... which we can't.

[Mastador1]

What's this you say, China cheating?

[Pearls Before Swine]

Are our “negotiators” zealots who will take any sort of CO2 reduction as great, or blind, or just bribed?

[samtheman]

Are our “negotiators” zealots who will take any sort of CO2 reduction as great, or blind, or just bribed?
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Religious zealots who see the element carbon as the work of the devil (aka white male patriarchy).

[fella]

Surprise!

[datura]

R-11 was used also to make meth in the old days. They are flooding us with fentanyl, maybe much of Asia’s meth habit is being fueled by China as well.

[GOPJ]

China cheating? OMG it can’t be ... I’m shocked I tell you - shocked.

[Vaduz]

The left just got real mum can’t blame the USA.

[Red Badger]

They just haven’t figured out how to do it yet...................

[imardmd1]

i believe your skant here is correct. T the best of my knowledge as an enployee of one of the companies making and using CFC refrigerants and associayed products, CFCs are not a real problem any more than DDT, Their danger is a complete emotional frenzy over anything that sounds like a chemical. Blocking of the CFCs has caused more deaths through lack of affordable refrigeration than the elimination of them has putatively (big assumption) saved.

As a scientist, hearing about them, and about asbestos handling, and about the climate fervor, the whole of it makes me want to retch.

In this particular matter, iI suspect China is probably acting realistically to provide things for their citizens that are economically beneficial and safe. (Not in huge favor of them for trying to destroy our way of life, tho')

[Vaduz]

Some things hove no answers they just found it out confused and with much anger.