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To: lepton

If the DOJ order about not indicting a sitting president was blocking them from indicting Trump, there’s an easy way around it. Crimes like collusion and obstruction do not happen in a vacuum and CEOs are used to giving others orders and expecting them to be carried out. Mueller could have indicted one of the people close to Trump and pressured them to turn on Trump in order to get what they needed. The fact that they did not indict anyone else in Trump’s inner circle (other than old crimes unconnected with the Trump campaign) tells me he did NOT collude or obstruct.

Secondly, Mueller’s statement is like asking the defendant to prove a negative, which is often impossible and must NOT be the burden of proof in an official investigation. There is only evidence (thus charges) and lack of evidence (thus no charges).

Rush Limbaugh concluded Mueller’s announcement was to say he wouldn’t testify before Congress and this was *not* so he’d have to answer questions from Democrats but that he’d answer questions from Republicans. Senate Republicans should subpoena Mueller to appear before the Senate Intelligence Committee and, if he refuses to appear, find him in contempt.


233 posted on 05/29/2019 1:25:16 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (Trump is Making the Media Grate Again)
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To: OrangeHoof
If the DOJ order about not indicting a sitting president was blocking them from indicting Trump, there’s an easy way around it. Crimes like collusion and obstruction do not happen in a vacuum and CEOs are used to giving others orders and expecting them to be carried out. Mueller could have indicted one of the people close to Trump and pressured them to turn on Trump in order to get what they needed. The fact that they did not indict anyone else in Trump’s inner circle (other than old crimes unconnected with the Trump campaign) tells me he did NOT collude or obstruct.

You’ve made a superb point. Sitting President Trump may be immune from indictment and prosecution, but one would have to assume that he acted entirely alone, insulated from all of his lieutenants, aides, and assistants throughout the campaign, in his commission of the Russian Collusion and that NOT A SINGLE ONE OF THEM ASSISTED CANDIDATE TRUMP IN COLLUDING WITH THE RUSSIANS. Not a single one of these people are immunized by being a current sitting president of the United States under the Department of Justice’s policy on indicting which has been in place since 1973 (IIRC), yet not a single one of these supposed co-conspirators was indicted, arrested, or even identified as an un-indicted co-conspirator in obstruction of justice with the sitting president, assuming there actually was no collusion, who would have had to participated in the process of collusion and/or obstruction of justice.

This makes absolutely no sense, unless there WAS no collusion and no obstruction and even no conspiracy (conspiracy even to commit a misdemeanor is a felony). If there were, there should have been ancillary indictments for these primary crimes brought by the grand jury of people near the president associated with actual campaign and administration activities or obstruction of justice other than President Trump, not just of people accused of process crimes having to do with testimony or of individual crimes unrelated to the investigation but uncovered by background discovery investigations.

Mueller and his SLAPP happy gang of prosecutors certainly could have indicted many people surrounding President Trump, especially his advisors, for obstruction had such even existed, because the only one who had a constitutional immunity was President Trump. Ergo, such obstruction simply did not occur.

236 posted on 05/29/2019 5:55:29 PM PDT by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplaphobe bigot!)
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