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To: Mount Athos

Yes. False accusers must pay double the penalty that the innocent man would have paid. If he loses his job, she must go to jail for life.


5 posted on 06/25/2019 1:02:05 PM PDT by I want the USA back (The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it. Orwell.)
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False accusers must pay double the penalty that the innocent man would have paid.
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I totally agree with you. Especially in this age of Me-Too. Also damages to his reputation and any lawyer’s fees. The penalties need to be severe.


9 posted on 06/25/2019 1:05:52 PM PDT by punknpuss
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To: I want the USA back
”Yes. False accusers must pay double the penalty that the innocent man would have paid. If he loses his job, she must go to jail for life.”

Completely agree. Any time a “protected class” of alleged victims is created, they are handed a potent weapon that can be used in a multitude of ways. If they misuse their presumed victimhood to falsely accuse others, they should pay a very heavy price.

I have personally witnessed several workplace claims of racial discrimination over the years. In each case I knew the parties involved, on both sides, very well. In every single instance, the claim was 100% bogus and was leveled because the person making the accusation had gotten themselves into some kind of trouble and reflexively reached for the race card to deflect attention from their own behavior. Even more disappointing was the fact that in a couple of instances the plaintiffs were otherwise very respectable people who I (until then) held in high regard, yet even they couldn’t resist the temptation to use the advantage they had been granted by political correctness.

For this same reason, it is pure fantasy to believe that any group of people granted “protected class” status will ever concede that any “discrimination” against them, real or imagined, has improved one iota. No “victim” is ever going to let go of their victimhood, no matter what anyone else does to try to be responsive to their “concerns.” To do so would be to give up power, and in today’s upside-down leftist PC world, victimhood is the ultimate form of power.

12 posted on 06/25/2019 1:17:08 PM PDT by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.`)
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well, one statistic that is 100% accurate is that 100% of men accused of rape deny it.....100%.....

the above article is one big long complex explanation of something except they want to make women who are raped feel even less likely to report it.....

I am absolutely for prosecution if someone accuses another of a crime that did not happen....

"did not happen" being the operative words because many times a crime was committed but the female will not pursue it because of the totally onerous "justice" system that makes victims pay twice...

35 posted on 06/25/2019 3:18:58 PM PDT by cherry
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False accusers must pay double the penalty that the innocent man would have paid.

That's a pleasant fantasy, but American prosecutors strongly disagree with you. Last time I checked, the average sentence for a man convicted of raping a woman was about eight years, and the average time served was about five years.

Women convicted of lying about being raped receive MUCH shorter sentences on the rare occasions when they are tried at all. I have never seen a study, but my impression from reading news reports is that sentences rarely go beyond one year, long on community service and receiving counseling, short on incarceration. Crystal Gail Mangum, the false accuser behind the Duke lacross scandal, was never even charged, though she was obviously guilty.

Usually, the false-accusing woman is treated as a victim deserving sympathy, not a criminal. In the case of Jackie Coakley of Rolling Stone - UVa fame, most media outlets declined to release her name. The poor dear had to be protected even after she had been proved a liar.

In my personal life I have encountered two instances of false accusation of rape. I wasn't the one accused, but in both cases I knew the accusations were false. In one case, the woman threatened the man after consensual sex. She said she would accuse him of rape unless he did something she wanted done. He declined. (Unfortunately, I had to listen to the whole thing through the thin walls of the cheap room I was renting.) In the other, the woman simply wanted attention and sympathy, and she calculated correctly that she could obtain both without consequence if she lied. I overheard her talking about the incident in public for several days, repeatedly naming her supposed attempted rapist. I knew her well enough to privately ask her for details, and she admitted that all that had happened was that the guy angrily pushed her away from him and onto a bed. That was it. There was no sexual touching, and they both stayed fully clothed. She just made him momentarily lose his temper, something she was good at. However, the truth did not provide a good story for her to tell.

Fortunately, in neither case did the woman file a police complaint.

I did receive one personal false-accusation threat. A young woman said she would tell police that I had tried to "molest" her, after I objected to her walking with a very loud boom box through a quiet residential neighborhood. Molestation is not quite rape, but she impressed me with the speed with which she came up with the false accusation. It took her about two seconds after I asked her to turn down the volume.

So, does objecting to false accusations of rape somehow endorse actual rape? Of course not. They are both serious crimes, only one of which is taken seriously in America.

37 posted on 06/25/2019 6:28:01 PM PDT by TChad
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