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To: LIConFem

How can a long term clinical study on opioids be done if there are no doctors able to prescribe long term opiates because the FDA won’t allow it? I guess a couple thousand people in special University studies after 5-10 years? That’s prohibition.

Insane. I just pray that one of these fools gets an intractable painful condition and suffers immensely as they make their way to Hell.

Prescriptions for opioid are down, opioid deaths are up. More doctors in prison than ever and drug dealers and DEA have more money and business than ever.

Disgusting.


10 posted on 07/13/2019 6:17:24 AM PDT by grumpygresh
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To: grumpygresh
" I just pray that one of these fools gets an intractable painful condition and suffers immensely as they make their way to Hell."

You know, I was just thinking that if someone I loved was in such horrible pain and was denied relief, I'm not sure the Lord Jesus Himself would be able to stop me from registering my displeasure, and in the strongest possible terms.
12 posted on 07/13/2019 6:29:24 AM PDT by LIConFem (I will no longer accept the things I cannot change. it's time to change the things I cannot accept.)
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To: grumpygresh

As a young intern I learned from a Chief Resident that you never prescribe narcotics for chronic pain. It was a lesson that served me well for my 35 years. At the same time I will say that mankind has been “getting high” since the beginning. There have been found canabis incense burners that are 5,000 years old, IIRC. What has happened is that our laws have restricted a number of euphoriants to transfer only on the order of one of us, physicians. So because of these laws my experience was some days up; to a third of the patients one dealt with were simply seeking to get high. Which was a total waste of time for both of us.
There is no one currently unable to find these drugs if they desire them. So our laws are accomplishing nothing but further driving up the cost of real healthcare. Further keeping the profits from the sale high. What is needed is a strong FDA to insure quality but keep the doctors out of the getting high business. If people want these drugs let them have them. The War on Drugs has been an unmitigated disaster from Day #1 (Harry Anslinger).


13 posted on 07/13/2019 6:29:54 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: grumpygresh

Here is a distinction that may help you. Terminal Illness is NOT “chronic pain”. 90 mg of OxyContin a day for chronic Low Back Pain is malpractice.


14 posted on 07/13/2019 6:32:57 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: grumpygresh

There are Intractable Pain Patients who have been on a set dose of Pain Meds for 10-40 yrs. While they became dependent on them, they were not addicted in that sense a Illicit drug junkie is.

We are as dependent on them as a Type 1 Diabetic is on Insulin. Since we were FORCED off them we have become house bound, non drivers, in wheelchairs or bedridden.

100 Autoimmunes are known they all come with that 4 letter word PAIN.


36 posted on 07/13/2019 7:42:35 AM PDT by GailA (Intractable pain, also known as Intractable Pain Disease or IP, is a severe, constant pain that is n)
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