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Democrat Fault Line: After Mueller Flop, A Nadler-Pelosi Fight?
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| 07/26/2019
| Ed Morrissey
Posted on 07/26/2019 7:12:30 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
How do we know that the decision to put Robert Mueller in front of TV cameras all day Wednesday went badly for Democrats rather than Republicans? Look where the rifts have opened or are widening. The Daily Beast spots a major fault line between two top leaders in the House Democratic caucus — Jerrold Nadler, one of the architects of the Mueller stunt, and Speaker Nancy Pelosi:
Publicly, his colleagues and his partys leadership praise [Nadler’s] handling of oversight into the Trump administration. But behind the scenes discontent is mounting over what some view as a less-than-smooth process in handling investigations into President Trump and his advisers.
There is constant battling. The speaker is very much directing the major decisions, said one Democratic lawmaker. I think this is a strategy [by Nancy Pelosi] to try and slow-walk this process and shift some of the attention away from her not moving forward. She puts it on the Judiciary Committee, saying, Oh they havent yet done all the investigative work yet. They are being meticulous and taking their time. Its a way to slow-walk it.
All committee chairs and House speakers have disagreements over jurisdiction, power, and strategic direction. But the relationship between Nadler and Pelosi is particularly sensitive now given the stakes of the issues theyre tackling. The special counsels office has closed, its report made public, and its director, Mueller, has testified on Capitol Hill about its contents. Now that the Russia investigation, as the American public understands it, has all but come to an end, both leaders are left answering questions about what comes next.
For Pelosi, the answer is simple: Stay the course. For Nadler, that course is becoming increasingly difficult to trek with members from his own committee, and constituents back home, calling not only for impeachment proceedings but for tougher posture toward a White House that seems hell-bent on making his oversight work impossible.
There’s been a lot of this excuse in the past 36 hours for the failure of Democrats’ Mueller stunt. Trump made us do it because he won’t cooperate! That’s a load of nonsense. Congress has legitimate oversight authority over the executive branch, but Democrats have (a) made it clear from Day 1 of their House majority their goal is impeachment, not good government, and (b) have stretched it so broadly as to attempt oversight over the Trump family’s businesses. Hostility has been met with hostility, which may not be entirely the fault of Democrats, but they own a large share of the blame.
Besides, Mueller’s report was the investigation that Democrats demanded. They still insisted — until Wednesday, anyway — that Mueller’s findings were all they needed. It only required the American people to watch a dramatic reading of it to generate a wave of outrage that would force impeachment and removal! Or so Nadler and Adam Schiff thought until their strategy blew up in their face on Wednesday.
Does Nadler really want to square off against Pelosi after this debacle? At the moment, his judgment looks much worse than hers. That’s not the question for the rest of us, though; it’s just worth noting that one side is about to have an internecine leadership fight after the Mueller stunt … and it ain’t the Republicans. That tells us all we need to know about how Wednesday worked out.
The rest of the Daily Beast’s report is well worth reading for more depth on the developing fight. Nadler’s defenders chafe at the restrictions Pelosi has put on him, while Pelosi’s defenders take aim at Nadler’s other questionable strategies. For instance, Nadler demanded that William Barr testify shortly after the release of the report, which Barr agreed to do — but then Nadler wanted Barr interrogated by staff attorneys rather than committee members. What was the point of that? No one’s quite sure:
In an interview, Cicilline defended the decision, saying it was important to establish that the committee controlled the construct of the hearings and not the witnesses. But months after the fracas, Barr still hasnt spoken to the lower chamber and some wonder: What was gained?
The whole thing about the staff interviewing Barr was stupid, said the senior aide. Was that a hill to die on? A hill that no one understands!
Thanks to the seniority system and House Democrats’ need to project calm, Nadler won’t be going anywhere, so the caucus is stuck with both of them. But that just means that the meltdown will have no real end until at least the 2020 election, when both Nadler and Pelosi might well change jobs if this civil war continues — to ranking member and Minority Leader, respectively. Republicans will have to do more work than simply passing the popcorn to make that happen, but perhaps not a lot more work.
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To: SeekAndFind
Nancy is fighting with AOC and her crew.
Nancy is fighting with Nadler.
Nancy seems to have health problems and some days cannot string words into coherent sentences.
I would say the Democrats are in disarray.
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posted on
07/26/2019 7:15:27 AM PDT
by
ClearCase_guy
(If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
To: ClearCase_guy
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posted on
07/26/2019 7:19:20 AM PDT
by
Vaquero
( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
To: SeekAndFind
A real cat fight. Nancy was right but Nadler would not listen.
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posted on
07/26/2019 7:22:04 AM PDT
by
gcparent
(Justice Brett Kavanaugh)
To: ClearCase_guy
Their plan is to slow walk it or better yet now snail it to 2020 Then they can impeach Trump and insure that Trump will not get elected. However they run into the IG Report and AG Barr’s investigations. Every day they do nothing the more likely the snail will be run over and squashed.
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posted on
07/26/2019 7:22:55 AM PDT
by
Kozy
(new age haruspex; "Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth.")
To: ClearCase_guy
Democrats' disastrous moves to date can only increase their desire to save themselves for 2020.
Too bad their desperation will entail even MORE disatrous moves.
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posted on
07/26/2019 7:22:58 AM PDT
by
Liz
(Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
To: SeekAndFind
Deep State mad! Jabba The Nadler and San Fran Nan scared! Jabba The Nadler and San Fran Nan trying to throw each other under the bus! Popcorn good!
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posted on
07/26/2019 7:24:37 AM PDT
by
dowcaet
To: ClearCase_guy
Pelosi needs to go, Nadler needs to go, Schiff, needs to go, AOC-PLUS_THREE needs go, Biden needs to go, Sanders needs to go, Buttigieg needs to go, O”Rourke needs to go, Booker needs to go, Harris needs to go, Warren needs to go, and on and on!!!
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posted on
07/26/2019 7:27:03 AM PDT
by
JLAGRAYFOX
(Defeat both the Republican (e) & Democrat (e) political parties....Forever!!!)
To: ClearCase_guy
It says quite a lot about the Democrat Party and the people who would join it that there are fights with Nadler that do not begin his decades long streak of child pornography involvement.
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posted on
07/26/2019 7:34:02 AM PDT
by
MrEdd
(Caveat Emptor)
To: SeekAndFind
The Dems will need some of that Mental Health they’re always pushing ,LOL
To: JLAGRAYFOX
The dustbin of history opens wide and can accommodate them all
And recall that those that don't know history are doomed to repeat it
First as a farce....then as a tragedy.
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posted on
07/26/2019 7:40:31 AM PDT
by
spokeshave
(If anything, Trump is guilty of attempting to obstruct injustice.)
To: SeekAndFind
A Nadler-Pelosi Fight....
/////////////////////////////////
Is that wrestling,boxing or mixed martial arts?
Great Pay Per View money involved and gambling will be out of this world.
Nadler: Whatcha gonna do when NadlerMania runs all over you?
Pelosi: My boys have your shoe size, or should I say cement overshoe size?
Venue has to be Las Vegas. Parade of elephants and then donkeys through the city and around the ring perimeter—bipartisan.
Every celeb in the country there to be seen.
Announcer: Mueller in a tuxedo in center ring with a microphone dropping on a cable from overhead. (”Tonight, or is it night now? That’s not in my purview. C’mon folks, laugh. I laughed when you guys came in.Ladies and Gentlemen. Who are the fighters, please, I cannot remember right now....”
Problem: Will have to waive all drug tests. Pelosi is on every cosmetic surgery enhancement filler,collagen and Botox in the world. Nadler on diet drugs and controls for health problems.
Spoiler: Pelosi rams her head into Nadler’s gut after an exhausting 40 minutes of battling. He falls to lose the match BUT drops onto the helpless referee who is barely able to breathe and can’t see the shoulders on the mat and Pelosi on top. Declared a draw later as fans riot-—and pre-prepared ads go on for rematch at higher price.
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posted on
07/26/2019 7:40:45 AM PDT
by
frank ballenger
(End vote fraud,non-citizen voting & leftist media news censorship or we are finished.)
To: Kozy
However they run into the IG Report and AG Barrs investigations.
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Don’t worry. The MSM will run propaganda interference for them, and their blitz campaign will be to barrage the masses with constant volleys about how Barr’s corrupt investigations and prosecutions and how Trump has successfully taken over the government.
Get ready for the over use but misuse of the term “constitutional crisis” even though most of the DOJ’s suspects are not even in another branch of government (I assume).
If you thought the 3 year blitz on “collusion” was far and wide, you haven’t seen anything yet. The MSM will get head explodey like never before
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posted on
07/26/2019 7:42:42 AM PDT
by
z3n
To: SeekAndFind
One of the problems with House committees in general is that they are chaired by senior, long-standing members of Congress. Usually, this means (by definition) that they come from safe House districts and don't face serious election challenges at home.
The end result is that you have these far-left misfits chairing committees, and they don't see the danger that their radical agenda poses to their fellow Democrats who have to run for re-election in hotly contested races next year.
Nancy Pelosi knows this, too. She once made a comment about AOC, in which she pointed out that "a glass of water" could win as a Democrat in AOC's district. That's true. But do you know what else is true? The same could be said about Jerrold Nadler, Maxine Waters, Adam Schiff, etc.
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posted on
07/26/2019 8:04:47 AM PDT
by
Alberta's Child
("Knowledge makes a man unfit to be a slave." -- Frederick Douglass)
To: ClearCase_guy
Adding to your list:
Nancy is fighting with the Democrat candidates who don’t know which side to be on - hers, Nadless/Schiff/, or the Squad.
Nancy is fighting the moderate party stalwarts who have been doing her bidding aka the dirty work of the party for many years in hopes of moving into leadership roles who have now been totally upstaged and pushed aside by “the Jihad Squad”
Nancy is fighting Trump on every front.
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posted on
07/26/2019 8:13:41 AM PDT
by
bigbob
(Trust Trump. Trust the Plan.)
To: bigbob
“Nancy is fighting Trump on every front.”
Yes, and unlike Trump, who thrives on adversity, San Fran Nan is really showing signs of the struggle. And from what I see, she’s loosing the fight with Trump, and her own Party.
To: SeekAndFind
Pecker puss Pelosi and her Dems are the gang that can’t shoot straight. They look really bad.
Remember after the election Democrats tried to make Trump voters admit they regret their vote? Now voters in the swing districts that went blue are regretful.
The Donald is a miracle worker.
This is just DNC talking point partisan shill nonsense, regardless of source. Notice how coverage of the Jihad Squad and their public statements has suddenly vanished? Nadler's a lousy actor, Pelosi's a lousy actor, they all are trying to change the narrative. THE JIHAD SQUAD IS THE DNC, Nadler vs Pelosi is kabuki BS.
Dershowitz: Americans don't want this path toward impeachment
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posted on
07/27/2019 9:57:42 AM PDT
by
SunkenCiv
(Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
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posted on
07/27/2019 10:01:31 AM PDT
by
SunkenCiv
(Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
To: SeekAndFind
It seems that the "whiff of fascism in the air" was coming from Nadler all along.
-PJ
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posted on
07/27/2019 10:20:09 AM PDT
by
Political Junkie Too
(The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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