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Media Contagion Effect: 19-year-Old Convicted in England
Ammoland ^ | 25 July, 2019 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 07/31/2019 4:44:39 AM PDT by marktwain

Media Contagion Effect: 19-year-Old Convicted in England

A young man in the United Kingdom has been arrested, tried and convicted of attempting to possess a pistol and ammunition with the intent of endangering life. In June of 2018, he purchased a Glock 17 and five rounds of ammunition on the dark web. The cost was £300 in bitcoin. The papers in the UK say the pistol and ammunition were intercepted at the Newark Airport in New Jersey.  That is probably true.  Many of these sorts of actions are preceded by a “sting”. I would not be surprised if the firearm and ammunition were ordered in a sting operation. From the dailymail.co.uk:

A teenager who saw Anders Breivik and those behind the Columbine High School massacre as his ‘poster boys' was today convicted of attempting to possess a firearm and ammunition with intent to endanger life.

Kyle Davies, 19, ordered a Glock 17 handgun and five rounds of ammunition from an online gun dealer on the dark web after developing a ‘deep and persistent' interest in mass shootings during his A-Levels.

The order purchased by Bitcoin was intercepted by Homeland Security at Newark Airport in New York, with police arresting Davies at his home in Gloucester after delivering a dummy package to him.

A jury at Gloucester Crown Court unanimously convicted Davies of attempting to possess a firearm with intent to endanger life and attempting to possess five rounds of ammunition with intent to endanger life.


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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: banglist; belongsinbloggers; clickbait; copycat; england; media
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Looks like a sting operation to me. $374 for a illegal Glock from New Jersey to England?
1 posted on 07/31/2019 4:44:39 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

So he can choose a gender that denies chromosomal science, but he can’t have a gun? He can smoke & drink.


2 posted on 07/31/2019 4:50:32 AM PDT by momincombatboots (Do you know anyone who isnÂ’t a socialist after 65? Freedom exchanged cash, a medicare card control.)
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To: marktwain

New Glock 19s run about $650 around here, I looked when at the range yesterday. I would expect selling one illegally would bring more.

Concur with your assessment.


3 posted on 07/31/2019 4:56:06 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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Illegal Glocks in Australia bring about $2,000-$3,000, I have read.


4 posted on 07/31/2019 5:00:56 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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And this "gun dealer" was selling handguns direct online, shipping internationally?

If there's any truth to this, the descriptor needs to be "ILLEGAL gun dealer".

Somethin stinketh.. d;^)

5 posted on 07/31/2019 5:01:20 AM PDT by CopperTop (Outside the wire it's just us chickens. Dig?)
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It says the sale was “on the dark web”.

So it was an unregulated sale.


6 posted on 07/31/2019 5:02:35 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: marktwain

I was offered nearly $3000 (Australian) to sell my handgun onto somebody who wanted a weapon and could not get a licence (for good reason, I think, in his case). And it’s far from a Glock.


7 posted on 07/31/2019 5:08:01 AM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: marktwain

That would make sense.


8 posted on 07/31/2019 5:08:10 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: marktwain

Five rounds? Wouldn’t fill the clip...


9 posted on 07/31/2019 5:10:16 AM PDT by ex91B10 (Powered by the Penguin)
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To: marktwain

He did not actually posses a gun. He was arrested for trying to buy a gun.

There was no gun. What was the crime?

Let’s see. Suppose someone in a store tries to put a piece of merchandise in his pocket and walk out, but actually has only stolen an empty box. Is that the crime of shoplifting?

Suppose a man thinks the lump on the bed is his dog, and shoots it, but it’s only a pillow. Crime?

Suppose a man thinks the lump on the bed is his wife, and shoots it, but it’s his dog. Crime?

A decoy policewoman posing as a hooker gets a man to give her money for sex. He’s arrested, she’s not.

A cop solicits a hooker and gives her money for sex then arrests her.


10 posted on 07/31/2019 5:24:42 AM PDT by I want the USA back (The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it. Orwell.)
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To: I want the USA back

Consider the story of a local police department who set a dummy buck on the side of the road and arrested anyone trying to shoot it for hunting out-of-season.


11 posted on 07/31/2019 5:30:40 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham ("God is a spirit, and man His means of walking on the earth.")
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To: ex91B10

Glocks don’t use “clips”.


12 posted on 07/31/2019 5:41:47 AM PDT by Sicon ("All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - G. Orwell)
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“...the evidence that he was inspired by mass murderers was sufficient to convict him of attempted crimes.”

1st Degree Wrongthink.

Off with his head.


13 posted on 07/31/2019 6:06:03 AM PDT by moovova
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I’m willing to bet they didn’t use the Bitcoin exchange rate from the day the trade went through.


14 posted on 07/31/2019 6:09:57 AM PDT by Bogey78O (So far so good.)
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To: ex91B10

It’s a magazine.


15 posted on 07/31/2019 6:22:36 AM PDT by LFOD (Formerly - Iraq, Afghanistan - back home in Dixie.)
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“Wouldn’t fill the clip...”

Um, perhaps you meant to say “magazine” instead of “clip?”


16 posted on 07/31/2019 6:23:16 AM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: Sicon

The term clip is slowly being switched back and forth with magazine. It’s becoming a generic term; I’ve heard it used both ways on the range even by an instructor.


17 posted on 07/31/2019 6:34:50 AM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: marktwain

Britain is now a fascistic loony bin. You get arrested for criticizing Islam online. Your interest in firearms is noted. Boris Johnson intends to flood the country with more Muslims.

No plans to ever visit UK. I’ll get my own fish & chips and London gin here.


18 posted on 07/31/2019 6:47:31 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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....”Five rounds? Wouldn’t fill the clip...” actually,
it’s a magazine, not a clip.... but my thoughts exactly...
only 5 rounds...?? what kind of mischief and mayhem was
he planning with only 5 rounds....? something does not
sound right.....just does not make sense....


19 posted on 07/31/2019 8:12:24 AM PDT by TokarevM57
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To: marktwain; momincombatboots; FreedomPoster; CopperTop; naturalman1975; ex91B10; ...
The crime then is "attempting with intent". IN other words, he failed to accomplish something that the government believes he thought about. As I want the USA back has commented, that's pretty flimsy excuse for an arrest but that's not what I wanted to comment on.

I don't think that this story has anything to do with guns really. Firearms are just convenient hobgoblins to scare Brits. Im not up on use of media to form public opinion to control masses and all of that kind of stuff but Im confident that this story is early ground work for English attempts at somehow banning or blocking the common person from accessing what we presently think of as the dark web.

The internet in its present form will soon reach an evolutionary dead end and more and more people are becoming so concerned about privacy and censorship that they are turning to the dark web. The dark web and how its control is distributed threatens establishments and status quo of present governments world wide.

Rather than ramble on, Id like to offer this video, How the mysterious dark net is going mainstream, to illustrate what Im speaking to. At first the presenter seems like the stereotypical drug addled professor but continue to pay attention hes going somewhere important. I really don't think that Im making a poor assumption to believe that Trump and present administration would probably like more of us to better understand this upcoming issue.

You see, on the dark web there is no main stream media that can create a monopoly to attempt to control your thoughts and no way to censor those who speak contrary to government in an effort to corral everyone back on to the plantation of the governments choice. Understanding that the dark web has great positive potential to increase freedom also exposes us to the negative side, the very "dark" side of human endeavors. Not just drugs or guns or other things governments have told us are evil but things that in reality we all intuitively understand to be true evil like human trafficking and as all of you that have been paying attention know, ending human trafficking has been half the effort of the Trump administration thus far.

20 posted on 07/31/2019 8:23:36 AM PDT by gnarledmaw (Hive minded liberals worship leaders, sovereign conservatives elect servants.)
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