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Trump Administration to Deny Green Cards to Legal Immigrants Who Draw From Social Programs
WSJ ^ | 12 Aug 2019 | Louise Radnofsky and Andrew Restuccia

Posted on 08/12/2019 7:32:36 AM PDT by oblomov

WASHINGTON—Immigrants legally in the U.S. will be ineligible for green cards if they use any of an array of social programs, and prospective immigrants will be barred from entry if they can’t convince a consular officer that they will never use such programs, as part of a final rule published by the Trump administration.

The rule, issued by the Department of Homeland Security, is one of the most ambitious and sweeping elements of the Trump administration’s immigration policy, according to administration officials as well as immigrant-rights advocates opposed to the change.

The administration was all but guaranteeing fresh criticism from immigration groups for opting to push ahead in the wake of shootings in El Paso, Texas, that were apparently motivated by anti-immigrant animus. Similar sentiments were expressed after Immigration and Customs Enforcement carried out raids on food processing plants in Mississippi last week.

The rule change tightens the definition of who is likely to become a “public charge” under immigration law, a designation that prevents an immigrant from obtaining legal permanent residence, and which is also used by the Justice and State departments to determine which noncitizens can be removed from the country or prevented from ever entering.

Use or potential use of a benefits program such as Medicaid, housing assistance or food stamps could now disqualify an applicant, including around 900,000 immigrants currently in the U.S.

(Excerpt) Read more at wsj.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; cuccinelli; ebt; immigration; invasion; moochers; trump; trumpillegals; welfare; welfarestate
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21 posted on 08/12/2019 8:05:06 AM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them.)
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I cannot disagree with this policy. Lets just not gloat about it and stop issuing green cards willy nilly to illegal aliens and come up with tighter h1b visas for government subsistence programs.


22 posted on 08/12/2019 8:06:45 AM PDT by Fhios
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To: oblomov

Sheesh, we haven’t even gotten around to fixing this mess yet, we’re still just overturning abysmal polices from previous administrations.


23 posted on 08/12/2019 8:06:58 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: cuban leaf

Similar thing happened to a farmer here. Most just sneak illegals in to work the farms but this one wanted to do it right and hired a legal migrant along with his whole family. The Mexican wife was his housekeeper. The man kept “losing” things around the house and farm. When he discussed it with another farmer he was told it was the Mexicans. He said “no way, they are legal”. The other farmer told him to leave a small amount of money around ($50) and see if it was there next time he looked. It wasn’t. The Mexican housekeeper had it. He fired the whole family and sent them back. Their excuse was that it was OK to do that in Mexico because if a neighbor had something and you needed it that it was OK to take it if you had the bigger need.


24 posted on 08/12/2019 8:07:37 AM PDT by Tennessee Conservative
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To: oblomov
> We need to get Plyler v. Doe overturned. No guaranteed access to any public services, except for citizens. > Except for Citizens?? “I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents.” ― James Madison But what did Madison know vs. these judges anyway, eh?
25 posted on 08/12/2019 8:08:41 AM PDT by i_robot73 (One could not count the number of *solutions*, if only govt followed\enforced the Constitution.)
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To: oblomov

What happened to the sponsors who are supposed to guarantee that the immigrant stays off the dole?


26 posted on 08/12/2019 8:09:56 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: i_robot73
No guaranteed access to any public services, except for citizens

Especially public schools. The fact that we are forced to pay to educate illegals is astonishing.

27 posted on 08/12/2019 8:10:35 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: bitt

It’s better every day thanks to Our Donald.


28 posted on 08/12/2019 8:11:01 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: oblomov

to qualify for permanent residence you must be able to support yourself and any families members accompanying you. That fact should be available in writing as it has been the law for more than 50 years.


29 posted on 08/12/2019 8:13:03 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said theoal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: oblomov

Let’s suspend green cards indefinitely.


30 posted on 08/12/2019 8:16:01 AM PDT by wastedyears (The left would kill every single one of us and our families if they knew they could get away with it)
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Trump: Use or potential use of benefits: Medicaid, housing assistance or food stamps
could now disqualify an applicant; includes some 900,000 aliens currently in the US.

THE PROPENSITY FOR FRAUD IS SHOCKING.
US TAXPAYERS DEMAND AN IMMEDIATE AND THOROUGH INVESTIGATION OF ALL BORDER JUMPERS ON THE GRAVY TRAIN
WHETHER IMMEDIATE AND EXTENDED FAMILIES HERE OR ELSEWHERE ARE CASHING US GOVT CHECKS.

US citizens demand answers.

<><> membership and support in violent radical America-hating organizations advocating the overthrow of the US govt.

<><> coaching illegals to vote using multiple identities

<><> use of multiple identities to get freebies

<><> rap sheets here, elsewhere

<><> receiving welfare, food stamps, SSI, free medical care, Section 8 housing, UI, Workmen's Comp?

<><> receiving monthly SS checks by claiming "asylum"

<><> making false claims on IRS forms in order to get EITC refunds

<><> presence of legal driver's license

<><> valid passports

<><> incidences of wire-transfers money to homelands

<><> travel to homeland on taxpayers' dime as per immigration laws

<><> registered to vote under. several identities.

<><> children getting in-state tuition--free school lunches--welfare--- food stamps-free healthcare---SSI/ADD checks.

<><> taking out sub-prime mortgages

<><> "flipping" mtge to a family member

<><> absconding w/ taxpayers forced to bail out the bank

31 posted on 08/12/2019 8:22:44 AM PDT by Liz (Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use. conclusive)
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Falsifying Official Documents involves altering, changing, or modifying a document for the purpose of deception.......
can involve forgery and/or passing copies of false documents. The preferred criminal MO to cover-up larger crimes.

Falsifying documents is usually done in connection with broader criminal aims, such as extortion, government fraud,
tax evasion, money laundering, financing terrorism.

Types of documents commonly falsified may include:

◾Tax returns and income statements

◾Personal checks

◾Bank account records

◾Business record keeping books

◾Immigration documents (such as visas, passports, etc.)

◾Identification cards and birth certificates

Many different types of acts can be considered as falsifying a document, including:

◾Altering or misrepresenting factual information such as prices or monetary amounts

◾Stating false information when requested to provide truthful statements

◾Forging a signature

◾Using official letterheads without authorization

◾Concealing assets or property WRT obtaining federal/state grants)

◾Knowingly using or distributing a fake document

A person can only be held criminally liable if they are deliberately acting with the intention of deceiving or defrauding another party.

Falsifying documents is a very serious offense and is generally classified as a felony. This means that a person charged with falsifying documents may be subject to the following legal penalties:

◾Having to pay a monetary fine

◾Incarceration in a prison facility

Depending on the gravity of the offense, as well as individual state laws, falsifying documents can result in a prison sentence of 5-10 years. Also, if government documents or authorities were involved, the legal penalties may be more severe. ..... legal penalties may increase with repeat offenses.

The penalty for falsifying government documents is outlined in the Crimes Act of 1958.

32 posted on 08/12/2019 8:24:24 AM PDT by Liz (Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use. conclusive)
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To: Sgt_Schultze; oblomov

>
Regarding this case, the ruling held the 14th amendment compelled the action. Here is an interesting take on the constitutionality of the 14th Amendment.
>

Along the same lines as the 13th as insofar, it was passed via compulsion/extortion: Want to remove the occupying army & be welcomed back into the Union...just sign on this dotted line.

Not as if the 16th doesn’t violate ala (economic) slavery (by degree(s)\tier(s))

The 16th itself vs. 4th & 5th (one MUST sign-away their 5th A. Rights to even file, IIRC), let alone IRS can lien\freeze all assets w/o a trial)

You know, ‘back in the day’, when we were still a Constitutional Republic, not this Banana.


33 posted on 08/12/2019 8:24:56 AM PDT by i_robot73 (One could not count the number of *solutions*, if only govt followed\enforced the Constitution.)
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Economic migrants from over 150 countries are storming our border, EAGER TO GET IN, b/c the payoff is huge. Democrats’ hysteria has not deterred them one whit.......The so-called "separated" children are abused by the migrants…...greedy migrants pass the children around pawning them off as their own kids b/c EITC checks increase by claiming children (even if they're not yours).

Children Being 'Rented' To Help Migrants Claim Asylum and Hefty SS Checks
IJR ^ | 7/14/2019 | Houston Keene / FR Posted on 7/14/2019, 8:59:55 PM by Its All Over Except ...

Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) explained how migrant children are being “rented” to help other migrants claim asylum when attempting to cross into the U.S. over the southern border.

Graham said migrants have been “renting” their children so that others can claim asylum in the U.S. and his claim that 30% of families apprehended while attempting to cross the U.S.-Mexico border are not really related.

Graham responded by saying that officials at the border have started a “pilot program” where they are testing the DNA of migrant family units at the border and that he was told of “about 60 children” who were being “recycled” at the border to allow more people to claim asylum.

“They told us about 60 children that were recycled,” said Graham. “They pick the child up in Central America, they bring them to the United States, everybody’s released, and the child goes back to Central America to do it again.” Watch the video at web site: ...

The Senate Judiciary chairman continued on to call the system that has “exploited” children “sick” and “rotten to its core.” He also brought up that “100,000 unaccompanied minors” had been apprehended at the southern border “this year alone.” “This is a sick system. It is rotten to its core. These children have been exploited. We’ve picked up 100,000 unaccompanied minors this year alone. They’re taking this journey, God knows what happens to them on the way, and when they get here 98 percent of them stay and the parents send a note [saying,] “if you want your child to come to America, hire a coyote.” (Excerpt) Read more at ijr.com ...

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African migrants newly arrived at our southern border flash ‘rolls of $100 bills’
American Mirror ^ | June 16, 2019 | Kyle Olson / FR Posted by yesthatjallen (Video at link)

The “poor huddled masses” coming across the southern border may not be so poor after all. Swiss journalist Urs Gehriger recently visited African migrants who breached the border and hung out on the streets of San Antonio, Texas, waiting to go elsewhere in the country, and he met hostility from people who didn’t want to share details about their experiences, conflicted each other, and had rolls of $100 bills. In a recording played on Fox News, Gehriger asks a migrant from Congo how she got to America. She refused to say.

As Gehriger continued to ask simple questions, he said they backtracked and “were not answering at all.” “They wouldn’t tell me anything about how they got here, and then they started to get aggressive and they were contradicting each other,” he told Laura Ingraham. “One said they ran through the forest, and another said no, there was no forest, and they were actually arguing among themselves,” Gehriger said. He said they started to get “aggressive” after questions about money and help.

Gehriger believes the illegals were coached on giving answers to authorities. “I had the impression that somebody told them not to speak about it,” and acting like “now we’re here, you have to help us, give us money.” “What I found from an aid worker there, they actually do have money. Quite a few of them, because he spotted them under a tree, right in front of the shelter, counting a roll of money with hundred dollar bills,” Gehriger told Ingraham. Hundreds of migrants Congo and Angola were transported to San Antonio the week before, and city officials say they received no warning from the feds that they were coming. KENS published a story showing dozens of people milling around downtown, saying they arrived at the southern U.S. border by way of Ecuador. ETC...

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Africans jump the border----seen holding wads of 100 dollar bills? Its likely their Third World govt's are paying the freight b/c the govt honchos cash in bigtime from remittances of the US gravy train tax dollars.

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AND THIS----Impoverished migrants" withdraw 4-5 figure sums......empty out Western Unions
americanthinker.com ^ | 6/25/2019 | Monica Showalter / FR Posted on 6/25/2019, 5:40:20 PM by rktman

Fearful migrants have tons of tax-dollars (collected under several identities) from their extended visa-free stays here. NOTE: Claiming "asylum" triggers hefty monthly SS checks. The Washington Examiner reports the "fearful migrants" are cleaning out Western Unions in Texas, making huge withdrawals:

SAN ANTONIO, Texas — People assisting the thousands of migrants who have arrived in San Antonio after being released from federal custody say Western Unions downtown are regularly running out of cash as a result of the high number of withdrawals being made by emigrants from Central American and African nations. “Western Union has run out for the past two-and-a-half months," said Khalid Chini, a local resident and volunteer at the migrant resource center downtown. "All the surrounding area, the Western Unions, they run out of money.” Withdrawals are running in the four and five-figure sums, according to the Examiner: (Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...

34 posted on 08/12/2019 8:31:08 AM PDT by Liz (Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use. conclusive)
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SOURCE: washingtonpost.com

Africans crowding the southern border say they are fleeing sub-Saharan Africa "in fear."
<><>The Africans pay smugglers to take them through Niger and Libya and across the Mediterranean Sea to Europe.
<><> Others apply through the United Nations to be resettled as US refugees.

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h/t diogeneslamp---Free Republic reported 35,000 Africans crossing South America to get to the US border.
Appears someone is organizing and paying for this assault against us.

African migrants newly arrived at our southern border flash ‘rolls of $100 bills’
American Mirror ^ | June 16, 2019 | Kyle Olson / FR Posted by yesthatjallen (Video at link)

The “poor huddled masses” coming across the southern border may not be so poor after all. Swiss journalist Urs Gehriger recently visited African migrants who breached the border and hung out on the streets of San Antonio, Texas, waiting to go elsewhere in the country, and he met hostility from people who didn’t want to share details about their experiences, conflicted each other, and had rolls of $100 bills. In a recording played on Fox News, Gehriger asks a migrant from Congo how she got to America. She refused to say.

As Gehriger continued to ask simple questions, he said they backtracked and “were not answering at all.” “They wouldn’t tell me anything about how they got here, and then they started to get aggressive and they were contradicting each other,” he told Laura Ingraham. “One said they ran through the forest, and another said no, there was no forest, and they were actually arguing among themselves,” Gehriger said. He said they started to get “aggressive” after questions about money and help.

Gehriger believes the illegals were coached on giving answers to authorities. “I had the impression that somebody told them not to speak about it,” and acting like “now we’re here, you have to help us, give us money.” “What I found from an aid worker there, they actually do have money. Quite a few of them, because he spotted them under a tree, right in front of the shelter, counting a roll of money with hundred dollar bills,” Gehriger told Ingraham. Hundreds of migrants Congo and Angola were transported to San Antonio the week before, and city officials say they received no warning from the feds that they were coming. KENS published a story showing dozens of people milling around downtown, saying they arrived at the southern U.S. border by way of Ecuador. ETC...

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Africans jump the border----seen holding wads of 100 dollar bills?

Its likely their Third World govt's are paying the freight b/c the govt honchos cash in bigtime from remittances of the US gravy train tax dollars.


35 posted on 08/12/2019 8:32:38 AM PDT by Liz (Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use. conclusive)
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This is great news, Illegals show never get anything free...I grew up poor as a chruch mouse and never got anything for free...
36 posted on 08/12/2019 8:33:53 AM PDT by mastertex
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To: oblomov

we don’t only have probs with illegals, folks.

Last night I had a gal from Baltimore who was angry we sent her a normal taxi. She complained that she needed a van because she had her kids with her. This was 4:00am. Vans hold 6 ppl; that is how many seatbelts are in them.

My dispatcher cancelled her revised trip.

She had SEVEN children with her, plus her pregnant self. At 4:00am ET. EIGHT ppl.

I can’t invent the stories I hear each night at my job, believe me.


37 posted on 08/12/2019 8:54:04 AM PDT by Dana1960
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To: oblomov

To be overturned by the end of the week by a Obama or Clinton judge.


38 posted on 08/12/2019 8:59:09 AM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Good


39 posted on 08/12/2019 9:04:20 AM PDT by yldstrk (Bingo! We have a winner!)
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To: oblomov

As it should be a long, long time ago.


40 posted on 08/12/2019 9:05:05 AM PDT by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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