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Google’s decision to develop ‘military AI’ in China is one giant middle finger to the United...
The National Sentinel ^ | 13 Aug 2019 | Jon Dougherty

Posted on 08/13/2019 7:22:46 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

FULL TITLE: Google’s decision to develop ‘military AI’ in China is one giant middle finger to the United States: Peter Thiel

(NationalSentinel) A decision by Google to end a contract with the Pentagon to develop artificial intelligence while deciding instead to build an AI campus in China is a massive slap in the face to the U.S., where the corporation is based, and a potential national security threat to America, according to one of Silicon Valley’s few conservatives.

In a recent op-ed, Paypal co-founder and billionaire philanthropist Peter Thiel made it clear that AI is being developed for military purposes primarily, and that it is a game-changer in terms of providing countries with hyper-advanced mil-tech.

But while U.S. corporations used to make business decisions that were also good for the country, Google isn’t interested in doing that and in fact appears to be consciously siding with a potential adversary.

“The Silicon Valley attitude sometimes called ‘cosmopolitanism’ is probably better understood as an extreme strain of parochialism, that of fortunate enclaves isolated from the problems of other places — and incurious about them,” he writes. In the 1950s, the cliché was that “what’s good for General Motors is good for the country.” Google makes no such claim for itself; “it would be too obviously false,” Thiel added.

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1 posted on 08/13/2019 7:22:46 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Google loved them some Hussein Obama.

They’re selling tech developed in the USA. Some of these sobs need to be locked up.


2 posted on 08/13/2019 7:25:38 PM PDT by boycott
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

This is no surprise. Google is more comfortable with brutal tyrants than with America.

Surveillance is their thing, so of course they would be all in with China.


3 posted on 08/13/2019 7:30:31 PM PDT by rlmorel (Trump to China: This Capitalist Will Not Sell You the Rope with Which You Will Hang Us.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I know that American weapons manufacturers often sell their goods to other countries, but I’m assuming it’s only allowed when it doesn’t present a risk to the U.S. Isn’t there a mechanism to stop Google from doing this, lest it be espionage?


4 posted on 08/13/2019 7:39:50 PM PDT by Bogle
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Gotta tell ya, knowing what we know of China lifting technology like it does, Google is undeniably playing the part of a traitor organization by doing this.

Trump should sequester that technology here.


5 posted on 08/13/2019 7:42:31 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (This space for rent.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Treason


6 posted on 08/13/2019 7:45:03 PM PDT by rdcbn ( Referentia)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Absolutely disgusting.


7 posted on 08/13/2019 7:46:37 PM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
The modern battlefield is cyberspace. AI plays a significant part. Good AI leads to leap frog improvements. Handing it off to China puts the US behind the competitive curve.
8 posted on 08/13/2019 7:50:29 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Declare Google a strategic military asset and seize their patents.


9 posted on 08/13/2019 7:51:14 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

We used to actually arrest people and seize their assets for materially aiding communists back in the day...


10 posted on 08/13/2019 7:51:43 PM PDT by TADSLOS (You know why you can enjoy a day at the Zoo? Because walls work.)
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To: boycott

Something I’ve wondered for a while .... would it make a difference if duckduckgo.com became the predominant search engine? Is it time to quit using Google?


11 posted on 08/13/2019 7:54:47 PM PDT by Bogle
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This happened a year ago and i know of know response from the US government. In refusing the uS military and working with a Chinese university tied to the chines military google is no longer a friendly US company and should be treated aa traitors and 86d from the US. The government should drop any and all google contracts and programs.


12 posted on 08/13/2019 7:55:32 PM PDT by morphing libertarian ( Use Comey's Report, Indict Hillary now; build Kate's wall. --- Proud Smelly Walmart Deplorable)
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Goolag is shit - anti-American shit.

duckduckgo.com
The search engine that doesn't track you

13 posted on 08/13/2019 8:01:33 PM PDT by tomkat ( /.02)
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To: Bogle
"....would it make a difference if duckduckgo.com became the predominant search engine?...

Not even sightly.

Google's profits and power come from their 'spy bots' being used on 98% of the pages on the web.

Even FR runs a Google 'spy bot' in every page.

14 posted on 08/13/2019 8:03:22 PM PDT by LegendHasIt
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Thank you...that’s good to know. A bit disappointing but good to know.


15 posted on 08/13/2019 8:05:59 PM PDT by Bogle
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To: Bogle

Any of our advanced weaponry (fighter jets ect) that are sold to other countries, is purposefully degraded in capability.


16 posted on 08/13/2019 8:15:40 PM PDT by walkingdead (By the time you realize this is not worth reading, it will be too late....)
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To: Bogle
The only way to hurt Google at all is to run a browser where you can selectively block Java, and reconfigure your HOSTS file to redirect Google and its dozens of subsidiaries away from their servers. (There are instructions on how to do this in several places on the internet... Duckduckgo can help you find them.)

And try to convince owners / webmasters of sites you use to abandon the 'free web tools' (like visitor statistics) on their sites that Google has them addicted to.

Even then, unless millions of other people do it too, it won't hurt Google noticeably. But at least your personal security will be somewhat enhanced.

17 posted on 08/13/2019 8:18:09 PM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: DoughtyOne
Trump should sequester that technology here.

Software (zeroes and ones) can't be sequestered anywhere. Somebody somewhere orders 101 widgets of catalog number 1100 from some company in China and now China has those ones and zeroes. Most of the building blocks to do AI are open source including Google's own tensorflow. There's also specialized hardware to speed things up which could potentially be restricted, but commodity hardware will work too.

The government has had mixed success at software export restrictions. Back in the 80's and early 90's the encryption software restrictions were a debacle. American companies had to apply for permits to export encryption that they had to import because no American open source was available because that was illegal. Now it's all open source and the Chinese can keep encrypt their transmissions and data just like anyone else (provided they don't make "mistakes").

China also has leapt forward with quantum encryption and even has a quantum communications satellite. AFAIK, we do not. The development of truly autonomous AI will be a lot harder but they can probably do it. Japan tried in the 80's in software factories and failed miserably. Chinese culture is not as rigid as Japanese but they have some challenges too.

In short, trying to export control AI is probably the best way to ensure that the center of AI research will be elsewhere (e.g. Europe).

18 posted on 08/13/2019 8:33:23 PM PDT by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Yeah well- the government will have the last laugh as google steps over the line and brings federal regulations and oversight down on them for betraying the American public


19 posted on 08/13/2019 8:34:44 PM PDT by Bob434
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Couldn’t we just say they’re in collusion with China to steal an election?


20 posted on 08/13/2019 8:49:02 PM PDT by Bogle
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