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1 posted on 08/21/2019 8:25:28 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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Guaranteed to head up to the Supreme Court!


2 posted on 08/21/2019 8:27:34 PM PDT by princess leah (Princess Leah)
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No, it is no longer time for these leftist judges to continue to make bad laws that empower the elite.

We are no longer ruled by representitive government.


3 posted on 08/21/2019 8:28:24 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Voter ID for 2020!! Leftists totalitarian fascists appear to be planning to eradicate conservatives)
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Tis is not a change. The electors have always been free to vote their conscience. They are not bound by the vote of their state. Nevertheless electors have never faltered in following the mandate of the voters they represent.


4 posted on 08/21/2019 8:32:34 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (The denial of the authority of God is the central plank of the Progressive movement.)
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NO IT DIDN’T!

Americans elect their president per the prescribed steps in the US Constitution!

Full stop.


5 posted on 08/21/2019 8:33:56 PM PDT by pacificus
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Why not just outlaw conservatives from being an EC delegate, because of racism, sexism, homophobia...?

Done, finished, 535 to zero for Dems!?!


9 posted on 08/21/2019 8:38:02 PM PDT by pacificus
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‘States have only the powers the Condtiution gives them’ Vs “The states have powers the Constitution doesn’t deny them.:


10 posted on 08/21/2019 8:42:26 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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It would seem to nullify the recent trend of leftist states wanting to cast all of their EV’s to the candidate (Dem, of course) getting a national majority of the popular votes.


11 posted on 08/21/2019 8:43:42 PM PDT by TomGuy
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The leftist “compact” among the blue states would essentially compel electors to be faithless. It would provide that the electors would have to vote according to how the popular vote occurred in the other states versus how their state’s citizens voted.


12 posted on 08/21/2019 8:43:52 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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Actually, this is a good decision.

There are a several states that have Republican governors and Republican legislatures that could vote for a Democrat president in the General Election.

This ruling means that Electors from those states would be free to follow the wishes of the voters who elected their state leadership and vote for President Trump in 2020.


13 posted on 08/21/2019 8:50:06 PM PDT by Meatspace
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The Constitution does not require a ‘popular’ vote for the office of President. Each state legislature is free to choose how electors are appointed. The fact that most states have chosen to appoint electors who represent the person who won the popular vote in their state is not mandated by the Constitution but now rather by custom.

There were ‘faithless’ electors in 2016. To many people’s surprise, most were electors from states that Felonia won who chose to vote for someone else. Their votes weren’t cast aside, but counted in the final tally.


14 posted on 08/21/2019 8:50:39 PM PDT by hanamizu
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The Electoral College...

Useless when they do their job, dangerous if they don’t.

Will Rogers


18 posted on 08/21/2019 9:12:27 PM PDT by Ceebass (The only thing Orwell got wrong was the date)
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There is often several electors or so that vote for a different candidate, so this has always been allowed. Now the court has finally ruled on it. I assume the Supreme Court will agree.


20 posted on 08/21/2019 9:17:23 PM PDT by Dave W
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The Presidential Election is on Tuesday, November 3, 2020.
About the Electors
What are the qualifications to be an Elector?
The U.S. Constitution contains very few provisions relating to the qualifications of Electors. Article II, section 1, clause 2 provides that no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector. As a historical matter, the 14th Amendment provides that state officials who have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the United States or given aid and comfort to its enemies are disqualified from serving as Electors. This prohibition relates to the post-Civil War era.

The National Association of Secretaries of State (NASS) has compiled a brief summary of state laws about the various procedures, which vary from state to state, for selecting slates of potential electors and for conducting the meeting of the electors. The document, Summary: State Laws Regarding Presidential Electors, can be downloaded from the NASS website.

Each state’s Certificates of Ascertainment confirms the names of its appointed electors. A state’s certification of its electors is generally sufficient to establish the qualifications of electors.

Who selects the Electors?
Choosing each state’s Electors is a two-part process. First, the political parties in each state choose slates of potential Electors sometime before the general election. Second, on Election Day, the voters in each state select their state’s Electors by casting their ballots for President.

The first part of the process is controlled by the political parties in each state and varies from state to state. Generally, the parties either nominate slates of potential Electors at their state party conventions or they chose them by a vote of the party’s central committee. This happens in each state for each party by whatever rules the state party and (sometimes) the national party have for the process. This first part of the process results in each Presidential candidate having their own unique slate of potential Electors.

Political parties often choose Electors for the slate to recognize their service and dedication to that political party. They may be state elected officials, state party leaders, or people in the state who have a personal or political affiliation with their party’s Presidential candidate. (For specific information about how slates of potential Electors are chosen, contact the political parties in each state.)

The second part of the process happens on Election Day. When the voters in each state cast votes for the Presidential candidate of their choice they are voting to select their state’s Electors. The potential Electors’ names may or may not appear on the ballot below the name of the Presidential candidates, depending on election procedures and ballot formats in each state.

The winning Presidential candidate’s slate of potential Electors are appointed as the state’s Electors—except in Nebraska and Maine, which have proportional distribution of the Electors. In Nebraska and Maine, the state winner receives two Electors and the winner of each congressional district (who may be the same as the overall winner or a different candidate) receives one Elector. This system permits the Electors from Nebraska and Maine to be awarded to more than one candidate.

Are there restrictions on who the Electors can vote for?
There is no Constitutional provision or Federal law that requires Electors to vote according to the results of the popular vote in their states. Some states, however, require Electors to cast their votes according to the popular vote. These pledges fall into two categories—Electors bound by state law and those bound by pledges to political parties.

The U.S. Supreme Court has held that the Constitution does not require that Electors be completely free to act as they choose and therefore, political parties may extract pledges from electors to vote for the parties’ nominees. Some state laws provide that so-called “faithless Electors” may be subject to fines or may be disqualified for casting an invalid vote and be replaced by a substitute elector. The Supreme Court has not specifically ruled on the question of whether pledges and penalties for failure to vote as pledged may be enforced under the Constitution. No Elector has ever been prosecuted for failing to vote as pledged.

Today, it is rare for Electors to disregard the popular vote by casting their electoral vote for someone other than their party’s candidate. Electors generally hold a leadership position in their party or were chosen to recognize years of loyal service to the party. Throughout our history as a nation, more than 99 percent of Electors have voted as pledged.

The National Association of Secretaries of State (NASS) has compiled a brief summary of state laws about the various procedures, which vary from state to state, for selecting slates of potential electors and for conducting the meeting of the electors. The document, Summary: State Laws Regarding Presidential Electors, can be downloaded from the resources/elections menu on the NASS website.

https://www.archives.gov/federal-register/electoral-college/electors.html


21 posted on 08/21/2019 9:17:58 PM PDT by mabarker1 ((Congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!!) Z)
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I don’t think Trump will let this pass.


24 posted on 08/21/2019 9:36:09 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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"“This court decision takes power from Colorado voters and sets a dangerous precedent," said Jena Griswold, Colorado's secretary of state. "Our nation stands on the principle of one person, one vote. We are reviewing this decision with our attorneys, and will vigorously protect Colorado voters.”

The federal court ruling conflicts with a decision from Washington state's Supreme Court in May, which said electors must follow the results of the popular vote. "The power of electors to vote comes from the state, and the elector has no personal right to that role,” the court said.

Lawyers from the nonprofit Equal Citizens, which represented the Washington state electors and Baca in Colorado, said they will appeal the Washington ruling to the Supreme Court."

Washington and Colorado both are in the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact. By who is really reacting, I'm thinking this impacts that interstate compact rather than how the electoral college has functioned traditionally.

25 posted on 08/21/2019 9:40:26 PM PDT by Tench_Coxe
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Choosing each state’s Electors is a two-part process. First, the political parties in each state choose slates of potential Electors sometime before the general election. Second, on Election Day, the voters in each state select their state’s Electors by casting their ballots for President.


So how many Trump supporters are/were going to vote for Clinton?

Yes, the Electors are free to vote for the Presidential and Vice Presidential candidates they wish...but the Electors are chosen based upon who they support.


27 posted on 08/21/2019 10:06:20 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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Overturned in... 3... 2... 1...


28 posted on 08/21/2019 10:16:43 PM PDT by Bullish (My tagline ran off with another man.)
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Well, that’s among the most egregious betrayals, and worthy of sudden death in my opinion.


30 posted on 08/21/2019 10:19:36 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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Bookmark


35 posted on 08/21/2019 10:57:59 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I Love Bull Markets!)
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Big deal! We’ve been sending people to Versailles on the Potomac for years who vote and legislate however they want. Ballot box is gone.


39 posted on 08/22/2019 2:22:02 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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