Posted on 08/23/2019 6:14:13 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
A Native American activist and citizen of Cherokee Nation slammed Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) in a Huffington Post op-ed Friday, calling on her to “tell the truth” about her ancestors’ interactions with indigenous tribes — alleging that her maiden family, the Crawfords, were “white squatters” on Cherokee land. Author Rebecca Nagle penned a post titled “Elizabeth Warren Has Spent Her Adult Life Repeating A Lie.” I Want Her To Tell The Truth.” Nagle said she was unmoved by the apology Warren issued at the Native American Presidential Forum Monday, where the Massachusetts senator admitted she made a “mistake” but did not elaborate on what the mistake was.
“Like anyone who’s been honest with themselves, I know that I have made mistakes,” Warren told the crowd. “I am sorry for harm I have caused.”
“I have listened and I have learned a lot, and I am grateful for the many conversations we have had together,” she added.
Yet this statement fell short, in Nagle’s eyes. “Many Native advocates, myself included, were not satisfied,” she responded. “Warren still has work to do, and demanding she do what’s left is beyond reasonable.”
“In all of her apologizing, Warren has never let go of her family story. After spending her entire adult life repeating a lie, I simply want Warren to tell the truth,” she continued, mentioning Warren’s great-great-great-grandfather – who allegedly participated in the Trail of Tears – as well as her other family members who purportedly participated in squatting on Cherokee land.
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Are arguments moving into “Boomer Sooner” territory?
An autographed copy of Pow Wow Chow might help fauxcahauntus. Lizzy is dizzy.
No.
Long before anyone wanted to go to Oklahoma on purpose Psychojawea’s ancestors helped drive the Cherokee out of their ancestral homes to Oklahoma.
Correction - her entire white life...
Reparations Now!
Elizabeth Warren went to the psychiatrist. She told him, “I don’t know if I am a teepee or a wigwam.” The psychiatrist replied, “The problem is you are too tense.”
I simply want Warren to tell the truth
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Pretty sure she would spontaneously combust.
I hope she gets the nomination.
Trump will be like a skilled cat playing with a mouse.
Oh, NOW I see how she came to the conclusion that she’s part Injun. Her great-great-great-grandfather was an anchor baby.
““In all of her apologizing, Warren has never let go of her family story. After spending her entire adult life repeating a lie,”
Who are these people to say it’s a lie? They know even less than Warren about her heritage and she knows very little. Why? Because the records from that era are scant and not detailed. Many of the people making these stupid statements know nothing about genealogy.
I am supposedly 1/32 cherokee just as Warren claims. My Cherokee ancestor was 5 generations back. I have spent decades trying to prove the lineage told by my parents and verified by identical stories told to my distant cousins by their parents. I believe it to be true based on corroboration of the stories but can’t really prove it.
DNA testing is almost worthless in the case of trying to detect a single Cherokee ancestor 5 generations back. DNA is not equally passed down among siblings and a host of other factors. When you are talking about 5 generations that means your blood has been pretty well mixed and a Cherokee DNA markers may or may not be passed down.
My problem with Warren is not that she believes she is 1/32 Cherokee. She may well be ... or not. My problem is that she used this belief with no real facts to get special rights. THAT should be the focus.
So I can sympathize with Warren’s situation, repeating a family legend she can’t prove. The difference is, I would never have dreamed of claiming I had been discriminated against based on ancient Cherokee ancestors 5 generations back... remember her silly stories about her grandparents suffering for their supposed Indian blood. Shameless. And she sold herself as a “woman of color” until really recently. Again, shameless.
Where I’m from, Cherokee ancestry is cool. Sadly, I can’t prove it.
not defending warren, but Indians weren’t supposedly the first inhabitants in America- so did the Indians ‘steal’ land that wasn’t theirs too?
“Native Americans arrived to find natives already there, fossil poo shows”
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/07/13/clovis_not_first_says_paisley_caves_excrement/
“Stone Age Europeans were first native Americans”
https://www.rt.com/news/stone-age-america-archaeologists-445/
um isn’t she like 1/1024 cherokee?
The original info based on her family stories was 1/32. Then the “experts” jumped in. All of them are missing the point.
No one knows for sure what it is and regardless of who you believe it is nowhere close to what’s needed to claim oneself as a Cherokee and get special admissions as she did.
[[No one knows for sure what it is]]
It was a DNa test- which is very accurate from what i understand?
There is a simple reason why families stories claiming cherokee ancestry may be likely true. 75 and 100 years ago people were generally ashamed of having Cherokee blood. My grandfather said he was ashamed of it and never wanted to talk much about it. Thus there was little advantage in claiming it within the family if it wasn’t really true — or true at least in what was told to them by their ancestors.
One can never know for sure about family stories though. The accuracy depends on the truthfulness of the specific ancestors. What one can do is to try and corroborate it. In my case two sisters’ descendents states apart had been passed down the same story. Doesn’t make it fact but certainly increases the probability it is true.
“Then in recent years some of the older folks ran their DNA and came up zero.”
DNA tests can’t reliably detect Cherokee blood for a single ancestor 5 generations back or whatever. DNA is not passed equally among siblings. Some may get the markers and others may not. Plus your DNA is watered down by 5 generations of people.
You may not be able to prove it but I would not rule out your family stories and I certainly would not base my belief on a DNA test ... UNLESS you are comparing your DNA to a known descendant of the specific Cherokee ancestor’s family. Of course the liklihood of finding such a Cherokee in the exact family is extremely low.
DNA tests ARE extremely useful for getting matches among distant cousins and networking among researchers. The so-called “ethnicity” results not that useful. I don’t even look at them.
“It was a DNa test- which is very accurate from what i understand?”
For this purpose? Not really. Please see my post #18.
For crying out loud!!!!! complaining from the left is all they have.
Ever since humanity and land met.... it’s been fought over.
When the settlers landed on the east coast, in time, the gov offered them free land to move west... and face Indians... they did... the moved to Indiana and Ohio... there is land where I came from that has been owned by families since they first got it...
then they moved on to Oklahoma.. and on to California... there is enough land for them all back then.. and the “white” people did make a good country out of this land.. the land that used to have oceans keeping us from invasions..
these leftists want to hand onto anything they think might stick... but they can’t walk into a room and own it.. Trump can.
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