Posted on 10/01/2019 1:20:20 PM PDT by edwinland
In Solomon’s March 20 interview with Yuriy Lutsenko, the then-Ukrainian prosecutor general made a series of wild claims, including accusing Biden of pressuring the then-Ukrainian president in 2016 to fire the country’s top prosecutor—at the time, Viktor Shokin—to squash an investigation into a Ukrainian gas company connected to Hunter Biden. (Lutsenko would later retract some of the claims made to Solomon, eventually walking back his claims of wrongdoing by the Bidens, ultimately concluding: “Hunter Biden did not violate any Ukrainian laws.”)
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People are not accusing Hunter Biden of somehow breaking Ukranian law during his time "at" Burisma. They are saying that Burisma was being investigated for a potential crime, and then hired Hunter onto their board, and then Joe Biden got the prosecutor looking into Burisma fired.
IN fact the article linked under the words "walking back" in the above paragraph is a Bloomberg piece which lays out that precise timeline, despite pretending that that somehow exonerates the Bidens from the accusation of conflict of interest.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-05-16/ukraine-prosecutor-says-no-evidence-of-wrongdoing-by-bidens
It sure as hell seems to me that their money on Hunter Biden was well spent. They got the vice president of the United States to fire the Ukrainian prosecutor for them. Rather obvious.
From the mouths of daily beasts.
Its HILARIOUS how hard Dems work to protect each other..its always “Well that’s DIFFERENT” they should just close their eyes and pretend instead of Hunter Biden, its Donald Trump JR and see how they react
How did Solomon get Joe Biden to brag about this "wild scheme"?
These slime ball DC lawyers are good. There’s not a lie they won’t concoct for the Democrats who continue to enrich thrm.
Most Americans are so damaged that they can’t see that the Ds and the media create their own facts and reality. And the sad part is that there are more of them than us.
Diversion.
The question was NEVER if Hunter Biden violated any laws.
The questions were concerning (a) an investigation of a company on whose board of directors sat Hunter Biden. As a director - and given he was their only for the political influence that bought the company - Hunter Biden unlikely knew what practices of the company, Burisma, had got them in hot water.
The QUESTION was with that investigation of Burisma pending, and with Hunter Biden on its board, what was the role of Joe Biden, Hunter’s father, in getting the prosecutor managing that investigation fired. Whether the facts are only what gives the appearance of impropriety by Biden senior, the question remains a legitimate question.
To suggest that Trump or Guliani sought to know if Hunter Biden broke any law in Ukraine is a smokescreen, diverting from the real issue, and pretends Trump and Guliani had a question they in fact did not have.
Apparently Maxwell Tani hasn’t heard the audio of Biden actually bragging about it. Max is right in so far as in Ukraine it is not illegal to brag, but so what?
Hope Max sees the golfing in the Hamptons video of Biden with two Burisma execs he denies knowledge of.
Like Obama denying knowledge of his neighbor and supporter and fellow Joyce Foundation boardmember Bill Ayers.
The ObamaBots are in full force.
Biden is on video saying this!
You try this in the Private Sector and you would be fired on the spot!
Well... he was a JAG and he was hired to work Burisma’s legal division.
Democrats do like sparring with straw men.
Better not speak ill of The Daily Beast, some Freepers tout it as gospel.
He replaced the one who was going after Hunter's meal ticket.
Here are the exact words from the prosecutor forced to step down by Biden. I have selected the key parts from Viktor Shokin’s sworn affidavit which he outlines:
“(c)Therefor, it is clear to me that certain US officials from President Obama’s administration, in particular, the US Vice-President Joe Biden, directly manipulated the political leadership of Ukraine on false pretexts, in order to prevent DF [Dmytro Firtash] from returning to Ukraine, as they were so concerned about him re-establishing public life there.”
“(d) DF did not travel to Ukrain. Vice President Joe Biden did. Where he met with President Poroshenko on 6 December and addresses the Rada on 8 December.”
“(g) This instance of interference in Ukraine’s affairs by US officials to achieve US objective (barring DF’s return to public life in Ukraine) was closely followed by another instance of interference, namely forcing Poroshenko to dismiss me because my actions as General Prosecutor did not suit the interests of the US Vice-President Biden and the persons connected to him.”
“6. The circumstances of my dismissal were that I tendered my resignation to the Kada at the request of President Poroshenko. Poroshenko asked me to resign due to pressure from the US Presidential administration, in particular from Joe Biden, who was the US Vice-President. Biden was threatening to withhold USD$ 1 billion in subsidies to Ukraine until I was removed from office. After I yielded to the President’s request and submitted my voluntary resignation, Poroshenko commented about it in the media. He said that I had carried out a colossal amount of work as General Prosecutor, which is my work on reforming different bodies of the prosecutor’s office, on creating the Specialized Anticorruption Prosecutor’s Office, which enabled the National Anti-Corruption Bureau of Ukraine to conduct legal work, and on creating self- governing prosecution authorities.”
“7. The official reason put forward for my dismissal was that I had allegedly failed to secure the public’s trust. Poroshenko and other state officials, including representatives of the US presidential administration, had never previously had any complaints about my work, however. There were no grievances against me or any allegations that had I committed any corruption-related (or, indeed any other) criminal offenses. Biden never stated anything of the kind either. Furthermore, all sanction in respect of Yanukovich and his supporters remained in force and were not lifted whilst I occupied the post. Moreover, these sanctions were extended.”
“8. The truth is that I was forced out because I was leading a wide-ranging corruption probe into Burisma Holdings (“Burisma”), a natural gas firm active in Ukraine, and Joe Biden’s son, Hunter Biden, was a member of the Boaard of Directors. I assume Burisma, which was connected with gas extraction, had the support of the US Vice-President Joe Biden because his son was on the Board of Directors.
“9. On several occasions President Poroshenko asked me to have a look at the criminal case aganst Burisma and consider the possiblility of winding down the investigative actions in respect of this company, but I refused to close this investigation. Therefore, I was forced to leave office, under direct and intense pressure from Joe Biden and the US administration. In my conversation with Poroshenko at the time, he was emphatic that I should cease my investigations regarding Burisma. When I did not, he said that the US (via Biden) were refusing to release the USD$ 1 billion promised to Ukraine. He said that he had no choice, therefore, but to ask me to resign.”
“10. When Porochenko asked me to resign, the way that he put it to me was that he was making it for the good of our country, and that I should agree, also as an act of patriotism. I agreed to tender my resignation on this basis.
“c) It was not Poroshenko being patriotic, it was Poroshenko submitting to the demands of state officials from the US administration of President Obama for reasons of political economy and the personal interests of the US Vice President Biden, amongst others”
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After reading that affidavit, I wonder why other FReepers have not put out those words like I have?
The question was NEVER if Hunter Biden violated any laws.
If you drill down into your average mouth breathing liberal Democrat they don't live in reality like you and I do. Their whole worldview is a miasma of childhood attachment issues, intellectual retardation, self medicating behaviors, pathological envy and depravity so ingrained on their soul they walk around vacillating from anger to envy to hate to confusion and back again. That's the whole wild eyed look you see on liberal politicians like Elizabeth Warren and AOC. Fellow travelers think that is social justice righteousness. What it really is, is mental illness , DSM 5.0 style.
It's a wheel of dysfunction, and they get filled with fury at anyone who questions their delusional worldview. Where if only their oppressive bogeymen were destroyed and cosmic justice were served up then it could be a a world where they would be free to hate with impunity. Liberals hate themselves with such ferocity, it is all consuming.
When Joe Biden bragged about getting the Ukranian prosecutor of his son fired, he wanted to make John Solomon look like a fool. So Biden deliberately lied in public, to the Council on Foreign Relations, to goof on John Solomon. That’s the gist of what I hear from the “journalists” who despise Solomon.
#17. So well said, thank you!
But in order to get there, no one needed to start out suggesting Hunter Biden erred. All that was legally pertinent was the question of the propriety of Biden senior pressuring Ukraine to fire the prosecutor. THAT legitimate question, if it was properly investigated COULD, POSSIBLY lead investigators, in time, to evidence of shenanigans by Biden junior. But getting there did not require starting with that suggestion, and Trump did not make that suggestion - only what was the deal with Biden senior getting someone fired.
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