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Trump Followed His Gut on Syria. Calamity Came Fast.
The New York Times ^ | October 14th, 2019 | David E. Sanger

Posted on 10/14/2019 3:44:39 PM PDT by Mariner

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To: Bon mots

I second what you said.


61 posted on 10/14/2019 4:12:15 PM PDT by Pelham (Secure Voter ID. Mexico has it, because unlike us they take voting seriously)
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To: Mariner

Let it be known, to all who tremble and doubt, that Donald J. Trump is playing a longer game here, using skills honed while working the real estate market and building trades.

His instincts are much more shrewd and sharp than the NY Times gives him credit for, and he has been doing it right in front of them for DECADES, getting better and better each time. Trump does not lose, he has learning experiences, and he integrates it all into the next deal that comes up on his table.

Trump, can be crude, or rude, as the situation calls for, but also in almost the next breath, he is laying out his next move to his opponent across the table, giving them a chance to make a counter-bid, and without prejudice in regards to the last opportunity they passed on, continues the deal.

It is a thing of almost beauty, to watch him do his “magic” at the negotiation table, all the while making his best estimate of the state of his rival’s mind, anticipating the next move and several alternative ways that the outcome shall be affected, then suddenly all the pieces come together.


62 posted on 10/14/2019 4:14:26 PM PDT by alloysteel (Nowhere in the Universe is there escape from the consequences of the crime of stupidity.)
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To: Mariner

Regardless of your position on President Trump, Erdogen is an Islamist and nukes are tempting targets. All that is needed is one provocation to push Erdogen to attack the US in Syria, get the US to respond against Turkish troops and bang, he has his “justification” for seizing the nukes.

Get them out!

Take that chip off of the table. Quietly fly them out to other US airbases.


63 posted on 10/14/2019 4:14:31 PM PDT by taxcontrol (Stupid should hurt - dad's wisdom)
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To: Mariner

Not our circus. Not our monkeys.


64 posted on 10/14/2019 4:15:08 PM PDT by karnage
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To: Mariner

How many troops did we have in the area? 50? Turkey had 15,000 on the border organizing for their siege before Trump had made any decision to move our troops out. I am sure those 50 troops would have been eliminated quick if they hadn’t been pulled out. Nice try MSN!


65 posted on 10/14/2019 4:15:13 PM PDT by jonrick46 (Cultural Marxism is the cult of the Left waiting for the Mothership.)
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To: Mariner
Nuclear weapons held hostage?

I doubt it.

There are quite a few MK 61 dial a nuke bombs sitting in museums all over the United States and Europe.

The active device is small enough to fit in medium sized case.

After the last cluster f**k with the siege after the coup attempt, would be kind of surprised if the nuclear components are still there. If they are, it’s only because the military or the State Dept strongly advised Trump to keep them there.

66 posted on 10/14/2019 4:15:36 PM PDT by rdcbn ( Referentia)
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To: Mariner

Trump isn’t being snookered like Boosh into fighting an unwinnable war.

No wonder the establishment and the media hates him.

They can’t explain why we need to be in Syria and what is our national interest in fighting a war there.

Cuck them.


67 posted on 10/14/2019 4:16:42 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Mariner
The left is goading us towards more endless wars. Good on Trump for keeping us out of this mess.

Suddenly, the New York Times loves war.


68 posted on 10/14/2019 4:17:16 PM PDT by Bon mots
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To: Mariner

This is NeoCon/NeoLib utter GARBAGE.

President Trump has ended the Turkish invasion of Syria by allowing the Syrian government to move its forces to protect the Kurds, WITH the Kurds’ agreement.

It was an amazing move & he deserves the Nobel Peace Prize for it.


69 posted on 10/14/2019 4:17:17 PM PDT by Trumpisourlastchance
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To: Mariner
Trump Followed His Gut on Syria. Calamity Came Fast.
by 'Precious' David E. Sanger

In your dreams Sanger, in your dreams.

70 posted on 10/14/2019 4:18:08 PM PDT by Hostage (Article V)
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To: Mariner

Looking up and down my block, no Turks, no Kurds.

So far no problem I can see.


71 posted on 10/14/2019 4:18:13 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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” Mr. Trump ignored months of warnings from his advisers about what calamities likely would ensue if he followed his instincts to pull back from Syria and abandon America’s longtime allies, the Kurds.”

It’s almost like he thinks HE is the final say, and not his advisors. That SOB!


72 posted on 10/14/2019 4:19:30 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: StAnDeliver
Trump leaves the same number of a couple hundred advisors:

"Trump's decision to leave just 100+ advisors in the field vulnerable to an overrun by the encroaching superior but fecklessTurkish forces weakens our national security and sends mixed signals to the Kurds."

Trump adds a regiment and cohorts:

"Trump's decision to commit 5,000 troops to Syria's border with Turkey is a raw reaction to Erdogan's simple bluff against the Kurds and scrambles the Middle East picture for all time."

Trump bombs Damascus:

"Trump's decision to take finally out Assad was met with derision in the intelligence community as Assad's replacement has deep Russian ties and is friendly with Iran."

73 posted on 10/14/2019 4:20:15 PM PDT by StAnDeliver (CNN's Dana B: "Show of hands: Coverage for undocumented immigrants?" ***all Democrat hands raised***)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Partisan Media Shills update.


74 posted on 10/14/2019 4:20:18 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Bon mots

Need to make one with the U.S. sailors captured by the Iranians. I’m sure Obama was nodding and smiling on that one too.


75 posted on 10/14/2019 4:20:51 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: Trumpisourlastchance

Anyone watching fake US media (that includes FAUX News) is unaware that the Syrian Kurds have made a deal with Assad/Damascus for protection and it IS WORKING. You need to follow alternative media to find out what is actually happening now in northern Syria. Manbij is safe. Kobane is safe. Raqqa is safe. The Syrian Army has now moved into all of these cities.

The Turkish invasion of Syria is ending now.


76 posted on 10/14/2019 4:21:21 PM PDT by Trumpisourlastchance
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To: Mariner

LOl. As if the kenyan’s Syria policy was a bowl of cherries.


77 posted on 10/14/2019 4:22:23 PM PDT by lodi90
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The bloodbath in South Vietnam when the Demwits pulled the US out? Still okay. The bloodbath in Libya that Obama and Hitlery helped start? Still okay.

78 posted on 10/14/2019 4:22:54 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Trumpisourlastchance

Syria & Russia have declared a no-fly zone in northern Syria. The Turks & their Jihadist allies can do nothing now in northern Syria of any consequence.

You will NOT learn this watching mainstream media. LOTS of accurate sources are covering this on Twitter.


79 posted on 10/14/2019 4:23:40 PM PDT by Trumpisourlastchance
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To: DesertRhino

Democrats were for being in Vietnam until they were against it.

They were against the Iraq War.because Bush was for it.

Now they wanted us to stay in Syria because Trump Is against it.

Democrats’ idea of foreign policy is to be against whatever a GOP President is doing.

Simple and straight.


80 posted on 10/14/2019 4:24:02 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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