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Vindman Broke Chain of Command to Get Word Out of Trump-Zelensky Call
Western Journal ^ | 11/19/19 | Randy DeSoto

Posted on 11/20/2019 2:32:51 AM PST by Libloather

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To: Sacajaweau

Hope you can find it.


41 posted on 11/20/2019 4:17:13 AM PST by redshawk ( I want my red balloon. https://youtu.be/V12H2mteniE)
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To: redshawk
The guy that offered him the job said it was a joke and it sounds like they were both drunk at lunch.

Zelensky fired the guy after he returned from the UN Meeting in NYC.

42 posted on 11/20/2019 4:18:09 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: pnut22

Just wow.


43 posted on 11/20/2019 4:19:32 AM PST by FamiliarFace
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To: Libloather

Oh well. Vindman is deep state. Deep state doesn’t get in trouble, they make the rules, they enforce the rules.


44 posted on 11/20/2019 4:20:38 AM PST by KobraKai
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To: EVO X

Good point. The reported offer is absurd. Viewing it thru a different culture, can easily be seen as an insult (akin to Trump asking Russia for the e-mails).


45 posted on 11/20/2019 4:22:41 AM PST by ctdonath2 (Specialization is for insects.)
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To: BuffaloJack

The military needs to bring him up on charges. I thought he took an oath. Did he forget who his commander in chief is?


46 posted on 11/20/2019 4:24:00 AM PST by Machavelli (True God)
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To: FamiliarFace

And don’t forget when Jordan mentioned that Vindman was in trouble before for leaking information, the Vindman lawyer quickly jumped in and said that, that happened before and that Vindman will not discuss it. ...Vindman has a reputation of being a leakier.

When the WH tried to make him leave the WH, Trump was blocked by some damn agency and thusly, couldn’t remove Vindman.


47 posted on 11/20/2019 4:26:20 AM PST by redshawk ( I want my red balloon. https://youtu.be/V12H2mteniE)
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To: redshawk

That’s right, can’t forget that.


48 posted on 11/20/2019 4:28:16 AM PST by FamiliarFace
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To: redshawk
Found it...Post 37

Sure sounds like they were both drunk.

And remember, he wears business suits...not a military uniform in all these Ukrainian encounters.

49 posted on 11/20/2019 4:28:49 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Sacajaweau

So it’s a nothing burger. Ok. I can see a that happening. Thanks.


50 posted on 11/20/2019 4:29:12 AM PST by redshawk ( I want my red balloon. https://youtu.be/V12H2mteniE)
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To: laconic
Could someone tell me why this very unimpressive person, the “look at my minor medals” type, has determined he runs US policy toward Ukraine, and when he doesn’t agree with it, goes bawling outside channels? What the hell is he doing giving advice to the Ukrainian government that may not be in the interests of America?

Morrison and Volker were temporary Trump employees...

The rest of the witnesses have admitted the investigation into Burisma stopped and never started again when Biden fired that prosecutor...They all feared Guiliani/Trump digging in to Burisma and especially the events of 2016 suggesting that he was a back channel that was going to harm National Security when in fact Rudy is uncovering the corruption not only in Ukraine but the American apparatus that enabled it...

Apparently the entire foreign service leadership in Ukraine is corrupt and trying to cover for Obama/Clinton while fomenting their own agenda as it deals with Ukraine...I suspect they were all highly disappointed/scared when the new President won the election...

51 posted on 11/20/2019 4:30:14 AM PST by Iscool
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To: redshawk
Not really....cuz Vindman said he reported the offer...which according to Vindman, was made 3 times.

Such a huge divide as to what really happened between the two people involved...Vindman and Danylyuk.

52 posted on 11/20/2019 4:32:08 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Iscool

I have a solution - FIRE every one of them. Why on earth in the electronic age do we have huge embassy and consular offices in every country on earth? This is a tip to bygones, like a city still employing streetlamp lighters. Too often these striped pants foreign service types end up advocating the interests of the country to which they are posted and NOT those of America. Cut the State Department, CIA and NSC in half and post most of the rest of them around the country.


53 posted on 11/20/2019 4:33:44 AM PST by laconic
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To: Sacajaweau

He’s acting like a Russian moe.


54 posted on 11/20/2019 4:36:39 AM PST by BuffaloJack ("Security does not exist in nature. Everything has risk." Henry Savage)
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To: BuffaloJack

That would be “Russian mole”.


55 posted on 11/20/2019 4:37:51 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Sacajaweau

The daily beast website crashes my tablet.
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So now you have me confused.
Vindman gets the offer, however jokingly, then reports the offers. End of story, right?


56 posted on 11/20/2019 4:38:08 AM PST by redshawk ( I want my red balloon. https://youtu.be/V12H2mteniE)
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To: laconic

I would make the observation (having joined the military in the late 70s) and noted the fundamental changes in the mid-90s....that officers with potential or notable achievements...got out early, and the ‘sour-cream’ achievers rose up the ranks. This is true in the General levels, and down into the O-5/O-6 levels as well. Doesn’t matter if you talk AF, Army or Navy.

I would even say that 40-percent of the O-5 level today are mostly people that can’t make it in the real world. Vindman seems to be one of those characters, and would rely upon ‘friends’ to help him out.


57 posted on 11/20/2019 4:38:54 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: BuffaloJack

Vindman has to be a commie mole or sleeper agent.
Why did Ukraine offer him the Defense Minister position three times?
The first time was feeling him out, the 2nd and 3rd times could only be considered as attempted bribes and why did they even think he might be persuaded?
I wouldn’t be surprised if Biden was the mastermind behind this whole thing. Did Biden have Ukraine setup Vindman as a fall guy whistle blower knowing it would blow up?


58 posted on 11/20/2019 4:40:36 AM PST by BuffaloJack ("Security does not exist in nature. Everything has risk." Henry Savage)
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To: Libloather

Anyone in the service who does not follow the chain of command needs to be out of the service, because they can’t be trusted.


59 posted on 11/20/2019 4:42:51 AM PST by BuffaloJack ("Security does not exist in nature. Everything has risk." Henry Savage)
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To: Libloather
Big trouble

So far, no. The perfumed princes aren’t doing jack. No word of a JAG even looking into it.

60 posted on 11/20/2019 4:43:29 AM PST by Sirius Lee (They are openly stating that they intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live.>>>)
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