What Would a War on the Drug Cartels Look Like?

Townhall.com ^ | December 2, 2019 | Kurt Schlichter

[DiogenesLamp]

What Would a War on the Drug Cartels Look Like?

I used to argue with a bunch of pot heads and libertarian drug legalization advocates. I kept pointing out that we never really had a "War on Drugs."

If we had been having an actual "War on Drugs", we would have a lot of dead cartel members, and so too a lot of dead leadership in countries that were importing drugs into our nation.

*THAT* is what a real "War on Drugs" would look like.

What we have, and what we've always had is a "holding action." Nobody wants to do what is necessary to actually win a war on drugs.

[setter]

“Or we can handle the problem through accepted international laws, the Constitution and Common Law.
But if we don’t, yeah it’ll lead to tyranny here and elsewhere.”

The situation I described above I can see happening in Mexico when the people have had enough. Clearly their gov’t will never fix things and forgot about international law.

[livius]

I live in the South and virtually all of our serious drug users are young to middle age white guys from the rural areas who just simply lost their reason for being or never had one. The work their fathers did is gone, the support they got from the establishment was nil - remember the “deplorables” - but Trump is restoring their jobs and their respect. And this is true for the black population, too.

The fact that some trucks had Texas plates doesn’t have mean we’re responsible - it means that the Mexican gangs have blatantly infiltrated the US, and we need to do something about this.

[DiogenesLamp]

Let the users OD, a friend calls it the ‘Self-Cleaning Oven Theory”

China OD'ed about half it's citizenry. It collapsed. A nation cannot survive legalized drugs. China's current dictatorship is a consequence of it's social and economic collapse which was caused by drugs.

[familyop]

"Yeh, if you mean the US drug users I agree. Step one is to decide what to do about them. Dry up demand and supply will subsequently dry up. Until Americans are ready and willing to do this. I mean hit it hard. Then, we’re wasting our time."

It's up to each individual, drug-free American to get ready for defense of self and family. Study, equipment, training, home and car surveillance (cameras, etc.), legal preparations (self-defense insurance) and all. Then, if you see or hear something, say something. If the locals don't take action, contact the DEA.

Most people are trash, believing that TV shows are relevant to the real world and behaving as though they'll live forever. Others take action for a better standard of living (the real American way).

[Migraine]

I would start by snipering their lookouts, posted on peaks in AZ and NM. Make them aware that there’s a price to pay. It’s our country, not theirs.

What they do in Mexico is not of as much concern to me. But keep them out and don’t let them run rampant over here.

[eyeamok]

Not what would it look like, who would actually be fighting this so called war and who would they be fighting against??

The Military against our own CIA,DEA, ATF and Bankers?

[NobleFree]

They murder thousands of Americans a year here with their poison

No, those Americans do that to themselves. The article's claim is like saying gun makers murder Americans.

[NobleFree]

Legalizing it, of course means taxing it. As I understand it, cartel weed might well be cheaper than ‘legal’ taxed weed.

It might - or it might not, if moderately taxed like alcohol.

And what’s to stop the cartels from dominating the legal market—if nothing else by offering ‘protection’ to the legal weed shops.

By that logic, what’s to stop the cartels from dominating the entire U.S. economy by offering ‘protection’?

[mrsmith]

Yeah, I’d say that’s the next step for Mexico.

Our5 Founders did not give us a feudally structured government that would lead to the same result.

El Jefe rules by right in other countries, but not here.

[hanamizu]

“...if moderately taxed like alcohol.”

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Have any states been “moderate” in their taxation of legal weed? Illinois, next door to me, is set to make in legal on January 1. They are already moaning and groaning about how most stores haven’t been licensed yet. I honestly think that for most states legalizing, it is the search for more revenue.

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“...what’s to stop the cartels from dominating the entire U.S. economy by offering ‘protection’?

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They already do in some parts of Mexico. They control almost everything. I wouldn’t be surprised that the little guy selling helados from his bike pushcart is paying tax to a cartel. I read how taxi drivers in Acapulco basically can’t drive without cartel permission.

We do have some history of this in our country with the mob. They didn’t control everything, but they did control a lot and in some neighborhoods, they did control everything.

Closing the border would certainly hamper their business and drone strikes of opportunity might thin the herd and encourage the new cartel bosses to keep their heads down.

[Elsie]

What Would a War on the Drug Cartels Look Like?

I suspect a HUGE! firefight!

And gasfilled and ignited border tunnels. (We can detect small earth tremors from 8000 miles away; we have SURELY detected digging sounds from up close!)

[Elsie]

bingo

[familyop]

"Oh, put a sock in it."

Refused. I'm not under the command of a social circle of spoiled, politically correct pansies any more. Losing is "unthinkable" (instruction for battle focused NCOs). There are even civilian cops who wouldn't hesitate to fight dealers to defend their families and the families of neighbors, not to mention prior enlisted combat soldiers.
Sooner or later, the drug dealers in our neighborhoods will be taken down by many people around them. There's are limits to American tolerance for the costs of the crimes and many forms of harassment from unsightly, unsanitary, ugly addicts.

[Elsie]

Puff the magic dragon...

[Does so]

How about a CIA Psyops ad placed widely throughout Mexico, awarding finders $10,000 for cartel-bosses' DNA?

Hairbrush, comb, vacuum sweepings?

[NobleFree]

Have any states been “moderate” in their taxation of legal weed?

Maine's tax is only 10%.

We do have some history of this in our country with the mob. They didn’t control everything, but they did control a lot

Quantify "a lot".

[bitt]

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[dljordan]

“Yeh, if you mean the US drug users I agree. “

they’re useless. I’m talking about the number of Mexicans and their offspring who are loyal to Mexico.

[hanamizu]

Maine’s tax is only 10%

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Good for Maine. And Maine is about as far from the cartels’ reach as it can get. How is it working out in California and Colorado? How will it work in Illinois next month?

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Quantify “a lot”.

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Don’t know that I can. From what I’ve been told, they do dominate certain industries in the North East.

I do get your point. By decriminalizing weed we could/should take a lot of profit out it. Many (but not all) of the bad things about marijuana stem from its illegality. My point is that the cartels have invested a lot of time and money in the cultivation, distribution and sale of it and I don’t know if they are willing to walk away from the business. Their expertise could make them the obvious choices to dominate the market.

They are now sailing submersibles/semi submersibles across the Atlantic Ocean to sell their wares in Europe. I just don’t see them giving up on the North American market.