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Army says faith-based group can no longer put Bible verses on dog tags after complaint
www.foxnews.com ^ | 12/3/19 | Caleb Park

Posted on 12/03/2019 12:56:08 PM PST by Midwesterner53

When Army Captain Russell Rippetoe was killed in action on April 2, 2003 -- the first combat casualty of Operation Iraqi Freedom -- then-President George W. Bush spoke about how Rippetoe had on his dog tags "Joshua 1:9" engraved on it.

For the past 20 years, military members have been able to wear dog tags with Bible verses on them, giving them light and hope in some of their darkest times. For some Gold Star families, this is one of their most cherished possessions to remember their loved one who gave the ultimate sacrifice. But all this could be coming to an end.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: fools; michaelweinstein; mickeyweinstein; mikeyweinstein; russellrippetoe
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To: DEPcom

Then there wouldn’t be anything to hyperventilate about.


21 posted on 12/03/2019 1:12:42 PM PST by Captain Walker
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To: Midwesterner53

Trump will put the skids to this restriction.

This is a really idiotic thing to ban.


22 posted on 12/03/2019 1:13:04 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Pledge: "...and to the Democracy for which it stands..." I give up. Use the democRat meme...)
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To: Red Badger
"Michael"(Mikey) is for the Archangel. Is this Archangel a Christian? Believe he's one of them that bows the knee.

Weinstein: German.

Personally: he's a bigot.

23 posted on 12/03/2019 1:19:47 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("Love must be sincere. Hate what is evil; cling to what is good." - Romans 12:9)
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To: lastchance

yes, the can dictate what info is on the ISSUED tags.

Name, social, faith denomination, blood type, etc.

I had my tags wrapped with OD green 550 tape to stop the “tinkle” noise of metal on metal. . .and the chain that goes around your neck, I removed the threads inside a para-cord and threaded the chain through it to stop the metal chain from snagging on my chest hairs.

Good luck trying to unwrap the tags.

The regs I know of (Air Force) did not prohibit wrapping tags, learned about that tip from a Combat Controller.

The backside of my tags: “Blessed be the LORD my strength, which teacheth my hands to war, and my fingers to fight.” (Psalm 144.1)


24 posted on 12/03/2019 1:22:52 PM PST by Hulka
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To: Red Badger

There is no way a squad leader or platoon sergeant or commanding officer reads dog tags. It doesn’t happen. This is some idiot inventing a problem that didn’t need fixing. This moron doesn’t realize that we have freedom OF religion, not freedom FROM religion. Any of my soldiers could’ve had the measurements of the playmate of the month on their dog tags and I wouldn’t have cared if they showed up on time at the right place in the right uniform.


25 posted on 12/03/2019 1:25:14 PM PST by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: Red Badger

Whine-stein is an agnostic.

He is paternally Jewish, but is not (unless he converted, which I don’t know about) Jewish.


26 posted on 12/03/2019 1:25:58 PM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Believe he's one of them that bows the knee.

Probably both knees..................

27 posted on 12/03/2019 1:26:12 PM PST by Red Badger (Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain...................)
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To: Jewbacca

He may not be now, but he will be in the future..................


28 posted on 12/03/2019 1:26:52 PM PST by Red Badger (Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain...................)
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To: ptsal

But! But! The satanists can have a safe place at West Point.


29 posted on 12/03/2019 1:27:17 PM PST by Parmy
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To: ptsal

Who’s the Commander in Chief?


30 posted on 12/03/2019 1:27:41 PM PST by aquila48 (Do not let them make you care!)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
A drumhead trial for the jokers responsible for this, followed by their executions, while the witnesses chant "all dressed up and no place to go" seems like an appropriate response.

31 posted on 12/03/2019 1:28:37 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Captain Walker
Just did some research:

I do not think this is about government issue tags.

You can order a Shield of Strength dog tag with your service emblem on one side of the tag.

The law suit demanded the Services not to allow the Shield of Strength to use service emblems on their product.

Here is a link to what MRFF did.
32 posted on 12/03/2019 1:30:14 PM PST by DEPcom
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To: Vermont Lt

That may be easy, yes.

But an even easier thing to do is respect freedom of religion. It’s really not asking much.


33 posted on 12/03/2019 1:30:53 PM PST by reasonisfaith (What are the implications if the Resurrection of Christ is a true event in history?)
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To: SkyDancer

“Don’t they have religious preferences already embossed on the tags?”

Yes, at least we did during the Gulf War.

As an aside, I am Jewish and was stationed in Saudi. One day, all the Jewish servicemen on the base were ordered to appear, where we were issued “Protestant B” dog tags — and we were told to stow our “Jewish” dog tags. Apparently, it was illegal for Jews to be in Saudi Arabia.

This was the only order I willfully disobeyed in the Army.

(And for the record, this current order is equally stupid.)


34 posted on 12/03/2019 1:33:01 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Sometimes There Is No Lesser Of Two Evils)
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To: DEPcom
The link did not take here it is again. https://www.militaryreligiousfreedom.org/2019/08/7-31-19-mrff-demand-leads-to-quick-removal-of-official-military-emblems-from-openly-sectarian-religious-jewelry/
35 posted on 12/03/2019 1:33:16 PM PST by DEPcom
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To: Midwesterner53

It’s going to be a lot of fun to see Trump demanding this be reversed, as a 2nd blow to the Obama scrum who still infect the armed services commands


36 posted on 12/03/2019 1:34:30 PM PST by montag813
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To: MeanWestTexan

Should have put a Prot J instead of a B ....


37 posted on 12/03/2019 1:36:23 PM PST by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: MeanWestTexan

PS: And thank you four your service there! My 2 brothers were there also.


38 posted on 12/03/2019 1:37:09 PM PST by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: SkyDancer

Why? Because the service defines what info is on the issued tag.

How can the complainer stop a serviceman from placing on the backside of his tag something special. . .Close to his heart.


39 posted on 12/03/2019 1:42:48 PM PST by Hulka
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To: Midwesterner53

This says more about the cowardice of the REMF Officer Corps than anything else.


40 posted on 12/03/2019 1:43:14 PM PST by Seruzawa (TANSTAAFL!)
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