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Army says faith-based group can no longer put Bible verses on dog tags after complaint
www.foxnews.com ^ | 12/3/19 | Caleb Park

Posted on 12/03/2019 12:56:08 PM PST by Midwesterner53

When Army Captain Russell Rippetoe was killed in action on April 2, 2003 -- the first combat casualty of Operation Iraqi Freedom -- then-President George W. Bush spoke about how Rippetoe had on his dog tags "Joshua 1:9" engraved on it.

For the past 20 years, military members have been able to wear dog tags with Bible verses on them, giving them light and hope in some of their darkest times. For some Gold Star families, this is one of their most cherished possessions to remember their loved one who gave the ultimate sacrifice. But all this could be coming to an end.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: fools; michaelweinstein; mickeyweinstein; mikeyweinstein; russellrippetoe
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To: Red Badger

Hide it under a bushel.


41 posted on 12/03/2019 1:43:37 PM PST by coaster123 (Distrust everyone under sixty.)
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To: Vermont Lt

“So print out another tag and put it with the other two.
Is anyone stopping that? It’s not like it’s hard to do.”

...you’re missing the point, The Army, which is an institution of the government, which has no business or authority to curtail the exercise of personal religious expression in this manner. Are you Ok with the Army doing that? It’s not like any given service member is plastering the side of a tank or warship with a banner ad or something, it’s a dog tag for God’s sake.


42 posted on 12/03/2019 1:44:17 PM PST by semaj (We are the People)
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To: aquila48

What’s it to you?


43 posted on 12/03/2019 1:48:07 PM PST by coaster123 (Distrust everyone under sixty.)
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To: ptsal

Who ever wore dog tags after basic training?


44 posted on 12/03/2019 1:49:43 PM PST by Safetgiver (Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: SkyDancer

Yes. PROT NODENOM.


45 posted on 12/03/2019 1:51:33 PM PST by Safetgiver (Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: Jewbacca
Whine-stein is an agnostic.

So am I, but I have no problem with any of our warriors having verses from their faith on their dog tags.

This Weinstein feller is not just an agnostic, he's also a mean-spirited, "virtue"-signaling fool.

What's next? Banning Catholics from wearing St. Christopher medals? No sacred underwear for Mormons? No Magen Davids for Jews?

46 posted on 12/03/2019 1:52:19 PM PST by null and void (Convicted spies are shot, traitors are hanged, saboteurs are subject to summary execution...)
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To: Midwesterner53

These tags are in addition to the two standard ones each soldier receives. Unless a trademarked logo is on the tag (Army Seal, Divisional symbol, etc.); I don’t see how the Army can force them to cease making and selling the tags. Meaning, an oval tag with a notch in it does not make a trademark.


47 posted on 12/03/2019 1:53:25 PM PST by IndispensableDestiny
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To: Vermont Lt; Midwesterner53

It looks like this is in reference to commercially made and sold “dog tags” NOT the ones that are issued by each service branch during initial in processing or by their personnel section if lost.

Each service has what is imprinted on their tag. For the Army it is Name, DOD ID Number (replaced SSNs in 2015) Blood Type, and Religion.

If I were holding a “dog tag” inspection, I would expect to see my soldiers having their Army issued ID tags. If they wanted a commercially made one like those in this article, I’d say, fine, but by regulation you must have an Army issued tag, go to the personnel section and get a pair.


48 posted on 12/03/2019 1:54:56 PM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: DEPcom

No link.


49 posted on 12/03/2019 1:55:22 PM PST by null and void (Convicted spies are shot, traitors are hanged, saboteurs are subject to summary execution...)
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To: Hulka

Thanks. Now does telling this company they can’t put Bible versus on tags mean that service members can’t wear tags with verses on them? To the army is this more of a trademark issue than a faith based one?


50 posted on 12/03/2019 1:55:39 PM PST by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: Jewbacca

And for those that wonder why the German population welcomed ‘crystalnacht’: Germany’s Mickey Weinsteins abound in Anton Gill, A Dance Between Flames: Berlin Between the Wars, 1993.


51 posted on 12/03/2019 1:56:38 PM PST by Bookshelf
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To: null and void

See Post 35


52 posted on 12/03/2019 1:56:42 PM PST by DEPcom
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To: DEPcom

Thanks. Shoulda scrolled down...


53 posted on 12/03/2019 2:02:52 PM PST by null and void (Convicted spies are shot, traitors are hanged, saboteurs are subject to summary execution...)
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To: DEPcom
I read the details at the link you put up.

I think the question now is, forget about what we think of Mickey, does he have a point? (Does the suit have merit?)

54 posted on 12/03/2019 2:11:18 PM PST by Captain Walker
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To: null and void

I don’t disagree with anything you posted, and made my post only in response to the apparent allegation that Whine-Stain is Jewish (which he is not).

The man is an ass, for clarity.

We Jews have plenty of Jewish assholes. I just ask that people kindly don’t blame us for the assholes that are not Jewish.


55 posted on 12/03/2019 2:14:27 PM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: Bookshelf

Yeah, I don’t think a handful of asshole mischlings caused the rise of the Nazis in Germany, no matter how stupid said mischlings might have been.

Useful scapegoats, though.

I do wish assholes like Whine-Stain would go away.


56 posted on 12/03/2019 2:17:20 PM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: MeanWestTexan

“This was the only order I willfully disobeyed in the Army.”

Good for you.

L


57 posted on 12/03/2019 2:26:40 PM PST by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: Safetgiver
< raises hand >

Inspectable uniform item everywhere I went... 1985-1999.

58 posted on 12/03/2019 2:32:36 PM PST by ExGeeEye (For dark is the suede that mows like a harvest.)
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To: SkyDancer

Yes, I believe they still do. Sorry, but the tags are considered to be an official document, and not to be altered by other than the service branch.

An additional tag is easy to have made. Wear it with the other two. I knew many over the years who wore a small cross or religious medal on the chain with the tags.


59 posted on 12/03/2019 2:35:05 PM PST by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: ptsal

I am a Christian who deplores what government and society is doing to kill Christianity. I preface my remark so as to deflect any criticism I might receive.

I am a combat veteran from the Korean war - and during my time there were strict rules that dog tags were not to be altered in any way from what appeared on them when issued. The primary purpose of the dog tag was to identify casualties. The notch in the tag was so that they could be wedged between the teeth of a dead GI separating top teeth from bottom teeth holding the mouth open.


60 posted on 12/03/2019 2:36:42 PM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said theoal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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