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“Preventing Gun Violence” is not a Compelling Governmental Interest
AmmoLand ^ | 5 December, 2019 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 12/07/2019 4:56:36 AM PST by marktwain

In a recent column, well-known Reason editor and writer Jacob Sullum made a likely unintentional error. He writes that “preventing gun violence” is a compelling government interest. From townhall.com:

Restrictions on fundamental rights usually pass muster only if they are narrowly tailored to further a compelling government interest — in this case, preventing gun violence.

“Gun violence” is an Orwellian phrase that compels the user to focus on guns rather than on illegitimate actions.

“Preventing gun violence” is not a compelling government interest.

Preventing murder can be a compelling government interest, though, in our federal system of limited governmental powers, it should primarily be an interest of the States, not the federal government.

Preventing suicide may be a compelling government interest, though the case is less clear than preventing murder.  Some governments are involved in approving of, and assisting in, some suicides.

Preventing justified homicides is clearly *not* a compelling governmental interest; promoting justified homicides aids in lowering murder, violent crime, and crime generally.

Preventing accidents may be a secondary governmental interest.

Preventing a murder or suicide committed with a particular method is *not* a compelling governmental interest, because it is not clear if prohibiting one method will do anything to lower murders or suicides generally. It is arguable that prohibiting one method will lead to the rise of other methods. If preventing one method does not lower the overall rate, resources have been wasted and liberties narrowed to no effect. Thus, singling out one method becomes a matter of choice and preference.

Using the Orwellian phrases of Progressives is one of the easiest ways to lose an argument with them. If you cede to them the ability to define the words and terms of the language used, they win, mostly by default.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: banglist; constitution; gunviolence; secondamendment
"Gun violence" is an Orwellian term designed to force the reader to consider restricting guns as the only method of reducing murder, suicide, and accidents, while including justified homicides and wounding of criminals in the mix.
1 posted on 12/07/2019 4:56:36 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain
is not a Compelling Governmental Interest

It is if you are a corrupt Globalist/Fascist and you want to disarm the American populace.


2 posted on 12/07/2019 5:00:12 AM PST by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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What really needs to happen is for America to rid its self of antigun wackos.

If the wackos are gone, there will not be a problem


3 posted on 12/07/2019 5:02:16 AM PST by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Progressives are existential American enemies)
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Gee, I wonder why then, that there was considerably less violence when clubs like these were more common in public high schools? Someone needs to Mr. Sullum this sort of question.
4 posted on 12/07/2019 5:14:50 AM PST by OttawaFreeper ("The Gardens was founded by men-sportsmen-who fought for their country" Conn Smythe, 1966)
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Their goal is to take guns from non-violent citizens and leave them in the hands of violent criminals.

They deliberately and intentionally ignore the cause of deadly violence: an individual who chooses to inflict harm on an innocent person.


5 posted on 12/07/2019 5:19:09 AM PST by I want the USA back (If free speech is taken away, dumb and silent we are led, like sheep to the slaughter: G Washington)
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I live in the Appalachian mountains. I will not disclose the location because the SJWs would descend upon this town.

About a half mile up the road from me is a hollow where citizens have set up a firing range.It has been there for years, and there are no rules or permits required. No government involvement at all. I hear gun shots all day long as hunters and others use the range for target practice.

I hear gunshots all the time. And to me it's like a lullaby, and I sleep safely at night knowing my neighbors have my back.

6 posted on 12/07/2019 5:42:24 AM PST by Governor Dinwiddie (Guide me, O thou great redeemer, pilgrim through this barren land.)
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Haven’t even trying to stop car violence.


7 posted on 12/07/2019 5:47:33 AM PST by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: OttawaFreeper
And today:HowToTotallyFreakOutYourSchool
8 posted on 12/07/2019 5:51:28 AM PST by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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Actually, the government interest is “preventing armed resistance”.


9 posted on 12/07/2019 6:30:39 AM PST by Chainmail (Remember that half the people you meet are below average intelligence)
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To: Chainmail

BINGO


10 posted on 12/07/2019 6:32:41 AM PST by Vinnie
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To: marktwain

Regardless, the horse has left the barn (a long time ago). BATFE states there are some 422 million firearms ( more than that I am sure) in American hands, some 17 million “assault” type rifles.

The statists/nanny minded folks are way too late.

Even today we see some 40+ counties in VA positively affirm that the 2A is the law of the land in the commonwealth.

These folks in govt need to wake up and get a breath of air, when nearly half of the counties of a state declare that proposed bans/restrictions on commonly held arms will not be enforced, the winds are blowing the other way.

God Bless the Republic, we intend to keep it, Mr. Franklin..


11 posted on 12/07/2019 6:38:02 AM PST by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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To: OttawaFreeper
"Gee, I wonder why then, that there was considerably less violence when clubs like these were more common in public high schools? "

Good point!

Perhaps the answer to your question might be:

Perhaps it was before the concept of, "Don' diss me, bro -- or I'll shoot you!" became a 'thang'...

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But, your photo raises the question,

Why weren't "negligent discharges" more prevalent back then -- before, (apparently) Trigger Finger Discipline had been invented?

TXnMA
  

12 posted on 12/07/2019 7:16:59 AM PST by TXnMA (Viewing our world in all four dimensions -- reassures us that POTUS Trump will keep on winning...)
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