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To: semimojo
He used the old form and more to the point stated that he did have first hand knowledge, so your entire rant is moot.

I’ve read every word of the legal filing of the whistleblower. He did not provide ANY firsthand knowledge in a single statement in it. He could b]not because he was never there. He wrote, or his attorneys wrote, that he spoke to others who heard of others who heard. . . Etc. he had one unnamed source (Lt.Col. Vindland?) who related the call, which was completely inaccurate in the description given, to him, initiating his horror. But the only "first hand" knowledge he related was of his actions in doing research of second hand information. Nothing beyond that. Yes, he checked the box on Form 401 claiming he had "standing" to file the complaint, but everything on the actual complaint pages denied that. He perjured himself on Form-401 by checking that box. He had no first hand knowledge of what he was filing from his office in the CIA office. He was literally not present to have first hand knowledge.

Get it through your head that ICIG Atkinson is dirty too! Who do you think conspired to slip in new regulations without holding the legally hearings and public comment time, and submitting the Form -401 alteration without submitting it to mandatory Federal paperwork reviews and justification or editing, or even requesting a revision date and number?

The date on it is not even in the regulation Federal format! It duplicates the first page color header on all subsequent pages, a huge no-no on Federal forms. It has no page numbers on any pages, another huge no-no on any Federal form that will require citing in legal documents. The real Form-401 has a page number at the top of each page, I.e., ICIG—Form-401, page 2 of 4. The new form? Nada. Nothing, nope, no page numbers, no form number. The even changed the name of the form, so finding it based on the name of the old form won’t work. Legally citing the new form would be a nightmare; it would have to be referred to by its full five word name.

It’s an amateur fake created on the spur of the ad hoc moment by someone unfamiliar with US Government Form requirements, doing things that would not survive the standard form creation process in any bureaucracy. I’ve struggled to get things through enough bureaucracies to know. Think of the amateurishness of Obama’s long-form Birth Certificate, and you’d be close.

68 posted on 12/28/2019 11:26:18 PM PST by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplophobe bigot!)
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To: Swordmaker

FakeNewsAustralia picked up WaPo’s version:

29 Dec: Sydney Morning Herald: Trump shares - then deletes - post naming the alleged whistleblower
By Colby Itkowitz, Washington Post
https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/trump-shares-then-deletes-post-naming-the-alleged-whistleblower-20191229-p53ne2.html

28 Dec: Gateway Pundit: Twitter Says “Glitch” Caused President Trump’s Retweet of CIA Whistleblower to “Appear Deleted” — Funny How those “Glitches” Only Affect Trump and His Supporters?
by Jim Hoft
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/12/twitter-says-glitch-caused-president-trumps-retweet-of-cia-whistleblower-to-appear-deleted-funny-how-those-glitches-only-affect-trump-and-his-supporters/


69 posted on 12/28/2019 11:31:35 PM PST by MAGAthon
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To: Swordmaker
He had no first hand knowledge of what he was filing from his office in the CIA office. He was literally not present to have first hand knowledge.

So you say, but ICIG states that he investigated the claims and determined that the WB had direct knowledge of at lease some of the alleged acts.

Get it through your head that ICIG Atkinson is dirty too! Who do you think conspired to slip in new regulations without holding the legally hearings and public comment time...

Let's put some meat on the bones of this conspiracy theory.

Who all is Atkinson conspiring with and to what end?

It can't be the WB because the WB didn't use the new form or take advantage of any of the new regs.

Is your theory that the ICIG is anticipating the need to have softer regulations in place for some future complaint? There was certainly no benefit to having them in place for the one we know about.

It’s an amateur fake created on the spur of the ad hoc moment by someone unfamiliar with US Government Form requirements, doing things that would not survive the standard form creation process in any bureaucracy.

You have outlined what you consider to be serious deficiencies with the new form.

Simple question. Are you aware of any instance where this new form has actually been used?

81 posted on 12/29/2019 8:22:21 AM PST by semimojo
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