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There can be no draft in the present day United States. It would be much too confusing and cause way too much emotional conflict. Currently if you are a male US citizen at the date of turning 18 you must register with Selective Service. What if you are an 18 year old illegal alien? What if you are female? What if you are transgender? What if you are binary nondetermined? It would be a total overturn of what are becoming the norms in today's America.
1 posted on 01/06/2020 9:17:24 PM PST by artichokegrower
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Registration for the draft is the law in order to be eligible for any Federal loans. Suck it up, buttercups.

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2 posted on 01/06/2020 9:18:48 PM PST by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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They needn’t worry. Under this president Pajama Boi’s are safe. .
Obama wanted to populate our military with as many of these Pu$$ies as he possibly could. For the purpose of undermining our military’s world renowned effectiveness in combat.


3 posted on 01/06/2020 9:23:19 PM PST by ocrp1982 (ll)
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Looking at the next thread down, clearly leftist college Students want Iranians to kill gay people.


4 posted on 01/06/2020 9:26:37 PM PST by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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Another election and more fearmongering about “drafts” from Democrats.

They pull this same crap in 2004 with MTV interrupting programs with “breaking news” about the impending draft. The ONLY draft legislation in the House and Senate was sponsored entirely by Democrats and they didn’t want to vote for their own bills.


6 posted on 01/06/2020 9:29:26 PM PST by a fool in paradise (Decade of decision for America)
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just a reminder, this irrational panic comes to you from the generation that eats Tide Pods.


8 posted on 01/06/2020 9:31:27 PM PST by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017)
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AOCortez is proud of her mustache.

Ask her if she remembered to register for Selective Service.


9 posted on 01/06/2020 9:31:41 PM PST by a fool in paradise (Decade of decision for America)
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There can be no draft in present day USA because the greater portion of what would be brought in with such would be worse than worthless.


10 posted on 01/06/2020 9:31:54 PM PST by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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#1. It is not fine print

#2. It is a standard question like every other one

#3. It has been there since obama.


11 posted on 01/06/2020 9:36:02 PM PST by 2banana (My common ground with islamic terrorists - they want to die for allah and we want to kill them.)
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Something like 75% of them can’t pass the physical anyway so why all the worry?


20 posted on 01/06/2020 10:10:49 PM PST by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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My son is applying for student’s loans for the first time this year. We paid for his associate’s degree, he pays for everything else. He already registered for the draft years ago but his doctor told him to forget about military service. He blew out his knee playing football; while very strong and a great shot, he can’t go long distances on the knee.

It was a crushing blow for him.


22 posted on 01/06/2020 10:20:33 PM PST by TheWriterTX (Trust not in earthly princes....)
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You have to be registered for the draft to get any federal benefits. Also, in my state, when you get your driver’s license you are automatically registered for the draft. Big signs are posted saying that at the DMV.


23 posted on 01/06/2020 10:26:14 PM PST by kaehurowing
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25 posted on 01/06/2020 10:28:39 PM PST by conservative98
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But none of them batted an eye at Hillary’s bellicose belligerence towards Russia, her threats of war, and the reality that they’d have been drafted into Hillary’s pantsuited paratroops.


27 posted on 01/06/2020 11:02:51 PM PST by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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It is the law for all males to register anyway. What a bunch of pant-loads.


28 posted on 01/07/2020 12:24:56 AM PST by vpintheak (Leftists are full of "Love, peace" and bovine squeeze.)
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Rangel (I think), back when BW was pres, introduced a bill to reinstate the draft then voted against it.


32 posted on 01/07/2020 2:49:27 AM PST by gattaca ("Government's first duty is to protect the people, not run their lives." Ronald Reagan)
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"Of all the enemies to public liberty war is, perhaps, the most to be dreaded, because it comprises and develops the germ of every other. War is the parent of armies; from these proceed debts and taxes; and armies, and debts, and taxes are the known instruments for bringing the many under the domination of the few.

In war, too, the discretionary power of the Executive is extended; its influence in dealing out offices, honors, and emoluments is multiplied; and all the means of seducing the minds, are added to those of subduing the force, of the people. The same malignant aspect in republicanism may be traced in the inequality of fortunes, and the opportunities of fraud, growing out of a state of war, and in the degeneracy of manners and of morals engendered by both. No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare."
--James Madison

Any freeman or lover of liberty would be appalled at a strong centralized government having conscription powers. Every President who pushed for a draft was a centralized Progressive (Yes, that includes Lincoln) Statists. Same with Congress members and judges who pulled "shadows" out of their rectums to justify the draft.

If my community is threatened, then I will pick up arms by reason, not through conscription which is antithesis to reason and limited government.

That said, regulated militias (Not directly under the Federal/State governments) should be promoted, perhaps through tax breaks for participating in Weekend Warrior activities. If the government is too scared of not completing controlling militias, tough crap, government servants should be scared of their citizens

DOD should have professional "volunteers". The process can be optimize a heck of a lot more.
35 posted on 01/07/2020 4:52:02 AM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians)
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So?.....Will those transgender females who identify as male be required to register? ( Just wondering.)


36 posted on 01/07/2020 4:59:51 AM PST by wintertime ( Behind every government school teacher stand armed police.( Real bullets in those guns on the hip!))
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You have been required to register for the draft in order to qualify for student aid since 1980.

And they’re just noticing now?


37 posted on 01/07/2020 6:26:23 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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In Rostker v. Goldberg(1981), the Supreme Court held:
... And since women are excluded from combat service by statute or military policy, men and women are simply not similarly situated for purposes of a draft or registration for a draft, and Congress' decision to authorize the registration of only men therefore does not violate the Due Process Clause. The testimony of executive and military officials before Congress showed that the argument for registering women was based on considerations of equity, but Congress was entitled, in the exercise of its constitutional powers, to focus on the question of military need, rather than "equity.
But, guess what? Since then, the Obama Administration busily worked to get women into combat specialties, which means the original reasoning no longer holds.

And in 2019, a federal judge ruled that excluding women from draft registration was unconstitutional.

40 posted on 01/07/2020 6:37:53 AM PST by PapaBear3625 ("Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." -- Voltaire)
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