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To: TrumpusMagnus
Maybe some of us are irritable because Russia forgets they were part of the Axis until half way through 1941, and enabled Naxi Germany to go on a worldwide rampage.

The Russian soldiers who died had their own leadership to blame. The U.K. and U.S. did everything in their power to aid the Russian cause, to their own detriment. They should have required Russia engage Japan in war immediately for example.

Russia also took so many casualties because their government had no care for their welfar. Including killing whole division of their own men because they were "in the way." It was much worse to be a Russian soldier than U.K., U.S., German, Japanese, etc.

I do feel some sympathy for those soldiers, but for any Russian government to play that card demands way to much chutzpah.

17 posted on 01/18/2020 6:29:30 PM PST by nickcarraway
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Without Russia’s massive sacrifice Germany wins the war, unless possibly if we had used numerous atom bombs on Germany in 1945 and if we had lasted that long. That’s all that matters.

“Russia is estimated to have lost close to 30 million people to the Germans during the war. The true tally could be even much higher. Americans cannot even fathom the scale of such a loss.

The United States lost approximately a half-million during World War II.

An entire Russian generation, villages, families, all wiped from the face of the Earth, buried in mass graves all around the former Soviet Union. Most of the Jews killed by Adolf Hitler were killed in the USSR.”

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/may/6/l-todd-wood-lets-talk-about-russia-and-its-role-wo/?utm_source=GOOGLE&utm_medium=cpc&utm_id=chacka&utm_campaign=TWT+-+DSA&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIhpDdiNeO5wIVGNlkCh3pKwObEAMYASAAEgL4rfD_BwE


19 posted on 01/18/2020 7:15:32 PM PST by TrumpusMagnus
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To: nickcarraway

“” “” Maybe some of us are irritable because Russia forgets they were part of the Axis until half way through 1941, and enabled Naxi Germany to go on a worldwide rampage.”” “”

If you are going to include USSR (not Russia) into Axis and this idea by the way is a part Polish government propaganda why won’t you also include Poland into Axis? If USSR dared to enter a non-aggression Pact with Germany and took back the territories Poland aggressively annexed from Ukraine means ‘being a part of Axis’ what is it when Poland blocked the French-Soviet defence treaty and attacked Czechoslovakia along with the Germans to annex territories for Poland?
Or maybe once someone is a ‘victim’ mentioning his crimes is a crime in itself?
When it comes to history Polish government is sitting it a glass house. Throwing stones at big guys from there is not to be supported.


23 posted on 01/18/2020 7:24:59 PM PST by NorseViking
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