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Trump unveils Middle East peace plan with two-state solution.....
Fox News ^ | 1/28/2020 | John Roberts, Alex Pappas

Posted on 01/28/2020 9:33:01 AM PST by caww

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To: 444Flyer

In 2011, Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas said in a speech to the Dutch parliament in the Hague that the Palestinian people recognized ‘Israel’s right to exist’ and they hoped the Israeli government will respond by “recognizing the Palestinian state......however they wanted it on the borders of the land occupied since the 1967 7 day war when Israel took back their land.


141 posted on 01/28/2020 6:50:54 PM PST by caww
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To: 444Flyer

In 2011, Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas said in a speech to the Dutch parliament in the Hague that the Palestinian people recognized ‘Israel’s right to exist’ and they hoped the Israeli government will respond by “recognizing the Palestinian state......however they wanted it on the borders of the land occupied since the 1967 7 day war when Israel took back their land.


142 posted on 01/28/2020 6:50:54 PM PST by caww
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To: SkyDancer

Do we also then give Mexico back the areas we now have?

I understand your argument but I aso know that there is a realignment of nations going on as God hands move to prepare the world for what is to come.

Israel will one day have it’s land but it’s dangerous to not allow God to manuver among the nations and their leaders what he chooses in order to bring about his ultimate plans..

“For My thoughts are not your thoughts,
Nor are your ways My ways,” says the Lord.
“For as the heavens are higher than the earth,
So are My ways higher than your ways,
And My thoughts than your thoughts.”


143 posted on 01/28/2020 6:58:14 PM PST by caww
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To: SkyDancer

They are Arabs..Jordan is an Arab country......People from Jordan are called Jordanians. Most of them speak Arabic as a first language...Jordan has been an independent nation since 1946.

Additionally Jordan is called The Hashemite Kingdom, because it is ruled by the Hashemite dynasty, which claims descent from the Islamic prophet, Mohammed. The Hashemite dynasty itself is named after Mohammed’s great grandfather, Hashim.


144 posted on 01/28/2020 7:05:31 PM PST by caww
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To: Vaden

Good post...and it’s do-able if the Palestinian Leadership, which leaves a lot to be desired these days, can move even an inch away from their hatred of Israel and their peoples ‘addiction’ to death and violence....not to mention to their pain and suffering..which they believe just goes with their high calling for Jihad etc.

It’s going to be a true heavy lift to get the people on board....but not impossible.


145 posted on 01/28/2020 7:38:10 PM PST by caww
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To: caww
..I understand what you are saying concerning MbS, but what I am saying is that this will not last even if it is signed. The Shiites and others will make sure of it. There is too much hatred for Israel.

From my perspective, the only One who will bring lasting peace there or anywhere else hasn't come back yet...

146 posted on 01/28/2020 11:19:43 PM PST by WalterSkinner (In Memory of My Father, WWII Vet 2007 , and Mom, the Best Mother Ever 2019)
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To: caww

So right. As long as they hate Israel more than they love their own children, they will never have anything but suffering.

I forgot to mention also that the Palis need to forget the 1949 armistice line and move beyond it. It is no longer doable and they need to be told that point blank by Israel and the U.S.

Also, no right of return for Palis (that’s ludicrous).


147 posted on 01/28/2020 11:35:41 PM PST by Vaden (First they came for the Confederates... Next they came for Washington... Then they came...)
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To: Guenevere; jersey117

It is a conundrum of sorts. The POTUS has been impeached by the House and the Senate trial is underway. That really should be big news with a lot of coverage under normal circumstances.

But we all know this is a bogus impeachment. It’s just that the news outlets look at it differently; they want to take every chance to discredit Trump - they covered all the Dem managers with aglow, then they cut off and interrupted the POTUS’ defense team, so of course they will give this big news about IP peace short shrift.

POTUS Trump is pushing ahead with his agenda. In some ways it may drive his opponents mad that he’s basically ignoring the trial and doing his job. This is a good opportunity and peace with Israel and the Arabs, a deal with North Korea (possibly), Chinese trade deal, the new USMCA trade pact etc are all going to be big parts of his 2020 re-election campaign. This is my own pet theory, but Trump really came up big during Reagan’s years and I think he has borrowed a lot from Reagan. He is going to say as part of his 2020 campaign, like Reagan did in 1984, with all this going on... “don’t change horses mid-stream”.


148 posted on 01/29/2020 12:00:55 AM PST by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: caww
This will be a heavy lift but not impossible.....

I think this will soon fade into the background, never to be seen again. Administrations have been trying for 50 years to get the Palestinians to seriously enter into peace negotiations without success. Presenting a plan that offers them even less than they had been offered before is not going to change that.

149 posted on 01/29/2020 2:53:17 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: Vaden
Israel is being very generous and agreeable here.

Say that the Palestinian counter offer was something like Jerusalem whole and undivided as the capital of Palestine, the Palestinians get the whole of the West Bank including existing Israeli municipalities but Israel will get territory equivalent in size the Gaza Peninsula, the Palestine state vows eternal peace with Israel though their armed forces may control part of Israel for defensive purposes. How generous and agreeable would Israel view that?

150 posted on 01/29/2020 3:23:11 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: All
The Word of God is the authority on Israel's land. Not fallen men. Scooping out and distributing portions of it to those who have no claim to it is not a real estate deal any wise person should be involved in. Israel is God's country. Every egotistical 'peace plan' from every administration is full of a level of arrogance without precedent. God is not mocked. (Look up "12 Shocking Proofs That Disaster Strikes America When It Mistreats Israel" for evidence of this.)

Zechariah 12:3

“And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.”

2 Kings 21:4

And he built altars in the house of the LORD, of which the LORD said, In Jerusalem will I put my name.

Numbers 23:19

God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?

151 posted on 01/29/2020 5:56:42 AM PST by 444Flyer (John 3 Revelation 20 Joshua 24:15 Pick a side..)
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To: SkyDancer

Now why did you have to go and interrupt such profoundly glorious ignorance with history, facts, and current reality!

You must be rasis against ignorance people.


152 posted on 01/29/2020 3:55:22 PM PST by patriotfury ((May the fleas of a thousand camels occupy mo' ham mads tents!))
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To: All

1/29

“Arab Leaders’ Support for Mideast Peace Plan Marks a Regional Shift”

https://www.wsj.com/articles/arab-leaders-support-for-mideast-peace-plan-marks-a-regional-shift-11580325868

They say “Aha” to Israel and the LORD will eventually answer them all.
~Joel 3:2~


153 posted on 01/29/2020 4:06:09 PM PST by 444Flyer (John 3 Revelation 20 Joshua 24:15 Pick a side..)
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To: 444Flyer

UAE, Jordan and Saudi Arabia among others are all on board with this accursed proposal.


154 posted on 01/29/2020 4:08:07 PM PST by 444Flyer (John 3 Revelation 20 Joshua 24:15 Pick a side..)
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To: 444Flyer

Within a few hours of this being announced.

1/28/20

2:10 EST

“Caribbean 7.7 earthquake felt in South Florida”

https://www.clickorlando.com/weather/2020/01/28/caribbean-77-earthquake-felt-in-south-florida/

“Watch the Waves From the M7.7 Caribbean Earthquake Roll Across the U.S.”

https://strangesounds.org/2020/01/caribbean-earthquake-animation-usa-video.html

Isaiah 2:11

“The lofty looks of man shall be humbled, and the haughtiness of men shall be bowed down, and the LORD alone shall be exalted in that day.”

Deuteronomy 32


155 posted on 02/02/2020 9:20:35 AM PST by 444Flyer (John 3 Revelation 20 Joshua 24:15 Pick a side..)
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To: 444Flyer

“HOW FAST GOD MOVES WHEN THE USA MOVES AGAINST ISRAEL”

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=12+Shocking+Proofs+That+Disaster+Strikes+America+When+It+Mistreats+Israel&&view=detail&mid=693C693F366D5D28F05A693C693F366D5D28F05A&rvsmid=590652D16183A0E1C1F2590652D16183A0E1C1F2&FORM=VDMCNR


156 posted on 02/02/2020 9:23:21 AM PST by 444Flyer (John 3 Revelation 20 Joshua 24:15 Pick a side..)
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To: 444Flyer
Please put a stop to this plan President Trump. You are being misled and deceived by those giving you counsel.

https://www.breakingisraelnews.com/144554/why-america-might-want-to-prepare-for-wave-of-natural-disasters-following-trumps-peace-deal/

157 posted on 02/05/2020 11:58:17 AM PST by 444Flyer (John 3 Revelation 20 Joshua 24:15 Pick a side..)
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To: Kaslin

The Word of God is the authority on Israel’s land. Not fallen men. Scooping out and distributing portions of it to those who have no claim to it is not a real estate deal any wise person should be involved in. Israel is God’s country. Every egotistical ‘peace plan’ from every administration that has attempted it is full of a level of arrogance without precedent. God is not mocked. (Look up “12 Shocking Proofs That Disaster Strikes America When It Mistreats Israel” for evidence of this.)

Zechariah 12:3

“And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.”

2 Kings 21:4

And he built altars in the house of the LORD, of which the LORD said, In Jerusalem will I put my name.

Numbers 23:19

God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?


158 posted on 02/06/2020 1:22:47 PM PST by 444Flyer (John 3 Revelation 20 Joshua 24:15 Pick a side..)
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159 posted on 02/20/2020 11:26:19 PM PST by 444Flyer (John 3, Revelation 20, Joshua 24:15, 1 Kings 18:16-39, Pick a side...)
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To: 444Flyer

Zechariah 8:2


160 posted on 02/20/2020 11:54:25 PM PST by 444Flyer (John 3, Revelation 20, Joshua 24:15, 1 Kings 18:16-39, Pick a side...)
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