Posted on 01/29/2020 12:25:07 AM PST by PghBaldy
Oops, my bad. The thread was about the plane landing in AK and that’s where I thought you were referring to.
The need for sleep was slowing down the brain cells. :-)
I get the sleep issues. No bueno.
And whiny, Anti-American English “Teachers” are whining they couldn’t bring their Chinese spouses or kids (probably not registered as American Births Abroad as these English “Teachers” really prefer and love Communist China)
Haha - if I need any cash from the bank, I’ll ask for well-used old US paper currency.
And one can be contageous during the 2 weeks before the symptoms are visible.
When I buy clothes at a flea market I always put then through the dryer until they are hot enough to kill fleas, lice, and scabies. This should also kill flu and corrona viruses.
Time in the clothes dryer should also kill bugs on paper money, or ironing with a hot iron.
Yeah, I ironed a $50 bill once...sprayed some H2O on it first...needed a neat bill for a gift in a “money holder” birthday card.
The drier isn’t hot enough. I don’t recall the exact numbers (I looked it up a few days ago). Most viruses die in the range of 170 to 220 degrees F. Driers are around 120 or so. Just putting the clothes in the drier probably spreads them through leaks in the vent and the next load of laundry.
Washing the clothes with warm soapy water will get most of the virus out of clothing.
Just hanging the clothes up in a plastic bag, closed room or outside (dry) would probably be good. The typical flu virus lasts about 2 to 4 hours on fabric.
Hmm - they don’t last long on fabric as the fabric wicks away moisture from the shell of the virus. So perhaps the drier would work. Maybe “it’s not the heat but the humidity” (or lack thereof that kills it).
“And one can be contageous during the 2 weeks before the symptoms are visible”.
You’re right. I failed to mention that.
Do you have links?
“No buying or selling” lest having the ....?
The doctor saying two hours is in the original article.
Above is an article from the English national medicos. A typical flu virus can last 24 hours on a hard surface, and 15 minutes on a tissue. (I’ve read that the tissue wicks away moisture from the cell and it dies).
Another similar article said that SARS was still viable 48 hours on a hard surface.
With this virus I’m sure somebody knows, but I haven’t heard any agreement on a number. Two hours seems REALLY short. And if it doesn’t last all that long - why are they shutting down entire cities in China?
Correct, but, usually unnecessary. Used US paper currency is porous enough that a virus won’t survive on it for long, and it will lose its ability to reproduce even faster.
Ditto for most clothes unless they have non-porous components - then just put ‘em through a wash-dry cycle as was suggested.
That is reassuring. It sounds like someone really knows what they are doing, though the more redundancy built into the system, the better. I wouldn’t ming the new set of clothes being incinerated in Ontario and replaced with yet another set of clothes.
That said, I am afraid that many people do not know what they are doing, and given that many others are allowed in with a few orders of magnitude less of caution, asking for more redundancy in this instance is likely to be annoying.
Probably because it’s a straight line on the flat earth map.
1/31
“Nowcasting and forecasting the potential domestic and international spread of the 2019-nCoV outbreak originating in Wuhan, China: a modelling study”
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30260-9/fulltext
Update:
(snip)”...Therefore, in the absence of substantial public health interventions that are immediately applied, further international seeding and subsequent local establishment of epidemics might become inevitable. On the present trajectory, 2019-nCoV could be about to become a global epidemic in the absence of mitigation. Nevertheless, it might still be possible to secure containment of the spread of infection such that initial imported seeding cases or even early local transmission does not lead to a large epidemic in locations outside Wuhan. To possibly succeed, substantial, even draconian measures that limit population mobility should be seriously and immediately considered in affected areas, as should strategies to drastically reduce within-population contact rates through cancellation of mass gatherings, school closures, and instituting work-from-home arrangements, for example. Precisely what and how much should be done is highly contextually specific and there is no one-size-fits-all set of prescriptive interventions that would be appropriate across all settings. Should containment fail and local transmission is established, mitigation measures according to plans that had been drawn up and executed during previous major outbreaks, such as those of SARS, MERS, or pandemic influenza, could serve as useful reference templates.””
(snip)”...The overriding epidemiological priority to inform public health control would be to compile and release a line list of suspected, possible, probable, and confirmed cases and close contacts that is updated daily and linked to clinical outcomes and laboratory test results.”
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IMO That in particular needs to happen. The reporting of confirmed individual cases stateside has been too obscured. Compare it to the coverage of measles cases where the stories are much more specific in details for those who possibly came in contact with infectious persons.
bats are immune to ebola corona virus...thats what they were playing w in wuhan....this sht has a 2 wk incubation w No symptoms..can live for at least months in dried viral bricks on any surface...all production from china is suspect ...from 1 mo ago?....into the future.....just talked to 2 drs from china live here with family in china.....they said...1 the country is in chaos 2...the gov is lying ...3 the death toll in wuhan is at least 100k....paper money is verboden....all bank loans are suspended...they also said chinese here will not talk about it because they fear china gov. “action” against their families...i was getiing updates from the H. K. protestors .....videos have been shut down....as of 2 days ago.....when they were showing blood in the streets....bleed out symptoms..”like ebola”...that all I know...right now...as my net sources are gone.the drs i talked to in person ....1 hour ago.if anyone says I f..kn Word about my spelling i will not post again.all chna production...nike...wmt...maybe apple..is gone...suspect cannot be trusted clean.
get rid of your cash....set up for quarantine.imo
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