Posted on 01/29/2020 10:46:28 AM PST by yesthatjallen
And by the way,the Mexican Total Fertility rate is just a whisker above replacement: 2.2. The replacement TFR is 2.1.
And if you subtract immigrants and the first gen children of immigrants, it's way, way below that. Native-born non-immigrant Americans have been falling short of replacing themselves via childbearing for the past 40-50 years.
The ideology was women-in-the-workplace cuz homemakers are, they tell us, parasites. The necessary enabling technology? The Pill.
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That's scare propaganda. Straddling the 20th-21st century, my husband and I raised 2 kids on orders-of-magnitude less than that.
One paid for his own post-secondary education, the other did not go to college. That's probably the biggest factor.
yes that may be part of that figure. the hospital birth costs are also part of that figure.
but its a figure spread across 18 years. so thats roughly 13 grand a year, for everything needed. $1100 a month.
They build SMALLER houses in nice neighborhoods. You don't need 5 bedrooms, just because you have 4 kids.
Healthcare costs have outpaced incomes, but not by the margins you suggest.
Nobody NEEDS to attend a 4 year school for 4 years of college.
The price of goods is NOT exponentially higher than salary increases.
U.S. Dept of Labor stats indicate, just for instance, that homeschooling families (and they tend to be multiparous) are represented at every level of income in the U.S. Every level of income. Think of that.
There are families at $150,000 a year that think they can't afford more than two, and families at $35,000 a year that have five.
Yeah, they re-gift their Christmas presents and shop for the cheaper cuts of macaroni. Nothing wrong with that.
Candy bar used to be .5 cents per eight hours work.
One bedroom per child has become the rule in real estate. I am not sure why as when I was young a lot of my friends used bunk beds. Very common.
This holds true for Mexicans, not necessarily other Central American and South American immigrants. Honduras TFR = 2.5, Nicaragua = 2.4.
"Replacement" is 2.1.
The happiest day of my life was when I got my own bedroom, and I didn’t have to share it with my brother anymore.
“and families at $35,000 a year that have five.”
You cannot raise 5 kids on $35k per year. Impossible.
That is below family poverty levels.
My wife and I are in our late 50’s. We have zero debt.
Our annual fixed cost is almost 50k per year. Health, car, home insurance, property taxes, utilities, maintence on and on.
Our health insurance is $1900 per month alone= $22,800 per year.
You shouldn't be too chipper about older Americans' future destitution.
As I mentioned in a later post it also depends where you live.
That’s a valid concern....but what about all the legions of women who followed the message put forth by feminists that they could have it all and thus put education and career first only to discover in the mid 30s that men were no longer interested? Acting on the idea that they would have a choice later....that it was only their decision that matters/that it doesn’t take two to tango and that the desires of men do not matter....has been and continues to be a disaster for many women.
In ultra-Orthodox Jewish homes, bunks are VERY common. Hassidic Jews, especially, have very high birthrates; ten children is not unusual. In fact, they would wonder about you if you "only" have four.
In Judaism children are considered a blessing. Also, the community helps its own -- huge number of charities & services.
To be sure, some do use birth control, mainly to space children apart. But ultra-Orthodox Jews have religious incentive to reproduce -- and there lies the rub. Without a culture of marriage and children, and culture of mutual aid, singlehood will be the norm.
“You cannot raise 5 kids on $35k per year. Impossible.”
I know families with nine children and they don’t make more than $70,000 a year. In fact, I knew a family 8 years ago where the total salary was $55,000 a year and they had 8 kids already and one on the way. It’s amazing what you can do in certain parts of the country.
If you choose to live in San Jose or Frisco-Oakland or Boston-Cambridge or DC-Alexandria-Arlington or Denver-Aurora-Lakewood, you and your spouse will spend the whole rest of your life paying for your house, you and your spouse will have very little time for each other let alone a goodly crew of kidlets, and you'll never have much of a family life.
On the other hand, choose to live in KCMO or Dayton OH, or where we are, Tri-Cities TN, and you will pay literally 1/10 that amount for a decent house in a decent neighborhood, and for top quality schooling the parochial school is fine, or for maximum satisfaction, be a Mater et Magistra, have tons of fun and teach your own.
Because you can do it all on one salary.
"You pays yr money an' you takes yr choice."
Saw this yesterday.
Brilliant video.
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