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Cruise ship fail: Most US residents tested in Omaha after quarantine have China virus
The Sioux City Journal ^ | February 21, 2020 | Omaha World-Herald, CNN, Associated Press

Posted on 02/21/2020 11:31:30 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

This would not have happened if Captain Stubing was around.
https://tinyurl.com/sczju3x


41 posted on 02/21/2020 3:54:59 PM PST by minnesota_bound (homeless guy. He just has more money....He the master will plant more cotton for the democrat party)
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To: prophetic

Any mass transit vehicle can become a petri disease on wheels container!

This virus can live for days (do know exactly how many days) after someone sneezes, coughs, breathes, passes gas or got on the vehicle with dirty hands and pants/skirts.


42 posted on 02/21/2020 4:24:54 PM PST by Grampa Dave ( May every person dissing Roger Stone, suffer the same nightmare BS justice in a liberal court room.)
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To: edwinland

I agree. That was dumb. Written by a person who is deliberately slanting the coverage or, more likely, an editor who doesn’t have the discernment to write properly.


43 posted on 02/21/2020 4:38:44 PM PST by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: shotgun

Even if cabins were sharing ventilation air (which they weren’t), no one realized in the beginning that true airborne transmission of the virus was possible.


44 posted on 02/21/2020 4:41:31 PM PST by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: RomanSoldier19

“Tbis thing has sars like elements”

Not just SARS-like elements, it basically is evolved SARS.


45 posted on 02/21/2020 4:44:52 PM PST by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: null and void

Well ;

Have limited info

But all of this stinks


46 posted on 02/21/2020 5:03:14 PM PST by RomanSoldier19 (Game over, man! Game over! ; : rem ad triarios redisse is)
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To: RomanSoldier19

Stinks to high heaven!


47 posted on 02/21/2020 6:05:19 PM PST by null and void (By the pricking of my lungs, Something wicked this way comes ...)
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To: null and void

Agreed;


48 posted on 02/21/2020 6:31:29 PM PST by RomanSoldier19 (Game over, man! Game over! ; : rem ad triarios redisse is)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

So... what about the other 300 people on the flight?


49 posted on 02/21/2020 6:41:36 PM PST by READINABLUESTATE (I'm)
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To: Wonder Warthog

“Each cabin intakes and exhausts air separately”

Admittedly, I only served on six ships. And, admittedly, they were Navy ships and not luxury liners. However, I just don’t see how that could be done.


50 posted on 02/21/2020 6:42:07 PM PST by dsc (As for the foundations of the Catholic faith, this pontificate is an outrage to reason.)
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COVID-19 , SARS and MERS

https://www.google.com/search?q=SARS&rlz=1CAXGER_enUS827&sxsrf=ALeKk01nSs684TN1xUyfgZWvm5sE-h4Zpw:1582338454975&source=lnms&tbm=nws&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiwt5eMjuTnAhXsRd8KHUddDkoQ_AUoAXoECA8QAw&biw=1920&bih=953


51 posted on 02/21/2020 7:00:56 PM PST by deport
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks; All

if the virus is not spread by the air conditioning, crew, or food, then i wonder if it is spread by the ship’s sewage system. does anyone know if the ship’s sewage system allows virus transmission between cabins? is sewage water recycled and if so is it first strained and/or sterilized to kill all viruses?

one way in which the japanese government could finesse the onboard quarantine is if they first asked princess cruises if the ship could safely isolate passengers in their cabins. given such a question, princess could respond either yes or no. however, if they responded no, they would have immediately had to junk all of their cruise ships as being unsafe. therefore, princess would have responded yes. this perhaps would have effectively shifted ultimate responsibility for passenger safety from japan to princess, regardless of day to day appearances. at some later time japan could simply deny responsibility and quote princess cruises’ response to it at a later date.

if i recall the rough chronology, the ship was being quarantined at about the time that multistory apartment sewage system spread was first announced, plus or minus a couple of days. does anyone recall the timeline?


52 posted on 02/22/2020 3:05:48 AM PST by SteveH (Zintentionally blank)
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To: SteveH

https://thehill.com/changing-america/well-being/prevention-cures/482798-can-coronavirus-spread-through-pipes-officials


53 posted on 02/22/2020 3:12:55 AM PST by SteveH (Zintentionally blank)
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To: dsc
"Admittedly, I only served on six ships. And, admittedly, they were Navy ships and not luxury liners. However, I just don’t see how that could be done."

Very easily. The heat/chill medium is central and runs off ship power. The liquid coolant circulates through the ship to heat exchangers in each room. Air circulation is a simple fan/duct arrangement from outside air and back, probably with some kind of particle filtration in the air loop. Zero possibility of bacterial/viral cross-contamination.

Navy ships have totally different requirements.

54 posted on 02/22/2020 4:18:39 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel and NRA Life Member)
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To: Wonder Warthog

If a ship has a thousand cabins, that means a thousand fans, a thousand heat exchangers, and how many miles of pressurized pipe and air ducting.


55 posted on 02/22/2020 8:42:32 AM PST by dsc (As for the foundations of the Catholic faith, this pontificate is an outrage to reason.)
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To: dsc
"If a ship has a thousand cabins, that means a thousand fans, a thousand heat exchangers, and how many miles of pressurized pipe and air ducting."

Yup, and this is no different from the miles of electric wiring, toilet plumbing, and other utilities installed to service the 1000 cabins. Actually, there probably needs to be two pressurized loops, one for cooling and one for heat in order to have full climate control. That piping probably runs in the same conduit routes as the electric.

56 posted on 02/22/2020 9:00:49 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel and NRA Life Member)
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