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Pandemic Hardening Can Make America Great: We need fewer dense cities and more factories
Frontpage Mag ^ | 04/03/2020 | Daniel Greenfield

Posted on 04/03/2020 6:46:07 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: Buckeye McFrog

I’d say American and European leftist dreams. Honestly...go to Singapore or Tokyo some time after the Wuhan virus dies down. You’ll see what a city is SUPPOSED to be like. Mass transit works and is clean with no graffiti or vagrants running around. Cities can work. It’s just leftists in the US and Europe run them horribly.

Global supply chains though...yeah, about that one. Lol.


21 posted on 04/03/2020 7:19:26 AM PDT by ksm1
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To: Socon-Econ
But what if American consumers already have all the refrigerators, huge houses, etc., that they want, and are looking for services, i.e., health care, vacations, movies, etc.? Are we going to build the factories anyway?

Do you find there's a shortage of "refrigerators, huge houses, etc.,?" Insufficient supply?

22 posted on 04/03/2020 7:20:12 AM PDT by gogeo (The left prides themselves on being tolerant, but they can't even be civil.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

However, I understand the desire.

Culturally, it would be nice if we encouraged a back-to-the-land movement. Lots of people can work from home these days. Maybe people should desire a plot of land — a 1 acre garden that they can tend while they work from home. I don’t need lots of factories in my town. I don’t need so much “stuff”. Maybe people should desire more elbow room.
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A real back-to-the-land, rather than the modern food-to-table version, means back to the days when food consumed most of our budgets and we could eat only what we grew, i.e., no fruit in the winter.


23 posted on 04/03/2020 7:20:59 AM PDT by Socon-Econ (adical Islam,)
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To: SeekAndFind

Why we need a really high ACROSS the board import tariff. That is all “we” need to do then get out of the way. The century plus of taxing DOMESTIC labor ( income taxes ) and having no import ( or ner zero ) tariffs needs to come to close. The sooner the better. Free Traitors™ need to GTH or China, which ever they prefer.


24 posted on 04/03/2020 7:21:08 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn....)
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To: SeekAndFind

We definitely need to bring the textile industry back to the United States at least in part. We should be manufacturing our own electronics, particularly for defense applications. I know the steel industry has had its problems but that is another industry that needs a presence in the United States.


25 posted on 04/03/2020 7:22:19 AM PDT by Crucial
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To: SeekAndFind

How can any serious patriot/pundit write about his subject and not use the word tariff? What? Is tariff a four letter word?


26 posted on 04/03/2020 7:24:07 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn....)
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To: SeekAndFind

And really, bringing back industry depends on eliminating stupid environmental regulations and business taxes. We don’t need to roll back all of it but if our survival depends on displacing or destroying the habitat of some fish or bird, we should do it.


27 posted on 04/03/2020 7:25:09 AM PDT by Crucial
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To: Crucial

We import tires for God’s sake. Almost all tires are imported and not made in the USA? Really Free Traitors™? How can a world power not make it’s own tires?????


28 posted on 04/03/2020 7:27:41 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn....)
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To: SeekAndFind

I prefer to look for silver linings in this crisis.

All of the jobs that will be returning will be manufacturing, engineering, technical, process and design jobs.

America does NOT need any more social workers, community organizers, social-scientists, bankers, mortgage brokers (or other agents of debt and financialization), political science majors, etc….

I hope America’s education system is able to radically transform itself. Kill the expensive public-education bureaucracies who have a stranglehold over most state budgets. For higher-education, increase technical schools, and eliminate the leftist-indoctrination puppy mills we have now in “higher education.” Fed.gov ending all debt support for this will go a long way in helping fix this problem.


29 posted on 04/03/2020 7:29:25 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: Crucial
And really, bringing back industry depends on eliminating stupid environmental regulations and business taxes.

No, That is a right wing fallacy. A tariff will bring it back. While reducing regulations and taxes will help lower prices marginally all we need is a tariff. We can make things here DESPITE the regulations and taxes AND WE SHOULD! If we wait for a repeal of liberalism then re industrialization it will NEVER happen!!!!

30 posted on 04/03/2020 7:31:26 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn....)
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To: central_va

I’m with you. There are likely numerous other industries we need to focus on. We have to get rid of a lot of regulation, particularly stupid environmental regulation.


31 posted on 04/03/2020 7:31:55 AM PDT by Crucial
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To: Macoozie
What happened to a handshake contract? Giving “My Word” to do something?

Unknown in today's world outside of certain surviving Anglo-Saxon parts of America. We conservatives are greatly handicapped by these beliefs we grew up with when we expect other cultures to adhere to them.

I grew up in that world and found that at least some of it carried over into the (majority white) corporate offices where I spent the first two decades of my working career. Moving into small business ownership and having to do business with other cultures to whom "My Word" was just so much noise was a major shock to my belief system.

Once the USA globalized, it had to start playing the game by world rules: Never give a sucker an even break.

32 posted on 04/03/2020 7:32:39 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: dfwgator

I knew someone would catch that.


33 posted on 04/03/2020 7:33:14 AM PDT by Migraine
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To: Crucial

While reducing regulations and taxes will help lower prices marginally all we need is a tariff. We can make things here DESPITE the regulations and taxes AND WE SHOULD!


34 posted on 04/03/2020 7:33:24 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn....)
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To: IndispensableDestiny

It’s back enough to many city folk come to the country and then try to turn it into the city they just left.


35 posted on 04/03/2020 7:37:18 AM PDT by Leep (Everyday is Trump Day!)
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To: Crucial
And really, bringing back industry depends on eliminating stupid environmental regulations and business taxes.

Yes, but it also requires employees to rein in their unions when they become soviets. I work in a town that once had a big employer. The company was unionized, after which the demands became endless, the rhetoric became more strident, and the situation became intolerable to the owners. The production was moved to Mexico first, then China after a few years.

To be fair, the EPA probably would have made their existence a moot point anyway.

36 posted on 04/03/2020 7:48:16 AM PDT by niteowl77
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To: SeekAndFind

Greenfield always makes so much sense.


37 posted on 04/03/2020 7:50:44 AM PDT by Bigg Red (WWG1WGA)
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To: ClearCase_guy

When people start refusing to buy products made in China then the collective “bottom line” will force corps to make things elsewhere - and it doesn’t *have* to be here, just not China.

I’m shocked at the FReepers resigning to “nothing can be done” nonsense.


38 posted on 04/03/2020 7:52:52 AM PDT by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: Macoozie
What you eloquently described is the America in which most of us here were raised.

Its gradual disappearance is what has left many of us feeling like strangers in a strange land; the more so with each passing year.

Absent its return, the nation may amorally stumble along for a time, but likely never again as the beacon of hope that once shone brightly, warts and all, to the rest of the world.


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39 posted on 04/03/2020 7:59:07 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: SeekAndFind

Super Dense Cities = A Dem Dream


40 posted on 04/03/2020 8:02:01 AM PDT by butlerweave
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