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Pandemic Hardening Can Make America Great: We need fewer dense cities and more factories
Frontpage Mag ^ | 04/03/2020 | Daniel Greenfield

Posted on 04/03/2020 6:46:07 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

If there ever was a reason to abandon the Agenda 21 scenario, the current situation we are faced with is it.


41 posted on 04/03/2020 8:18:29 AM PDT by Glennb51
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To: SeekAndFind

Author Daniel Greefield is right on the mark with this one. He’s actually stating in this article what many FReepers have often stated in commentary since this pandemic started.

He’s saying de urbanize, spread out, and make products in America, especially our healthcare products as in don’t be dependent upon any other global sources, but our own.


42 posted on 04/03/2020 8:19:52 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists Call 'em what you will, they all have fairies livin' in their trees)
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To: gogeo

Why would “we” want to?

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Volume or go home


43 posted on 04/03/2020 9:16:17 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: SecondAmendment

We don’t rely on slave labor like the ChiComs, nor do we need to.

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neither do the Chinese - the factory workers are relatively well paid. Things are less expensive than in the US so their money goes further. They also have no real alternative: live in REAL poverty in the countryside or work in the city as a second class citizen - city born and country born have different rules, but be able to make enough money to go home and marry.

They are not slaves; they are just paid less per their economy. Just like workers here have fewer perks (are ‘paid’ less) than EU workers who work 30 hr wk, paid month long vacations, free healthcare, etc by law.

We need mega factories to be competitive in price and volume with the Chinese, Indians and Vietnamese. Their factories are frequently state of the art. Those factories are smaller versions of what Foxconn was going to build in Wisconsin, until they learned we do no have sufficient infrastructure or skilled labor pool to make even a small version feasible or profitable. So Foxconn is just building a scaled down plant that will not be making the high tech large screen panels they had originally envisioned.

To make those giant factories work here we need another 500,000,000 people.


44 posted on 04/03/2020 9:30:58 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: PIF

The are a few factories like that in the world. Not a factor.


45 posted on 04/03/2020 10:00:56 AM PDT by gogeo (The left prides themselves on being tolerant, but they can't even be civil.)
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To: ksm1
I’d say American and European leftist dreams. Honestly...go to Singapore or Tokyo some time after the Wuhan virus dies down. You’ll see what a city is SUPPOSED to be like. Mass transit works and is clean with no graffiti or vagrants running around. Cities can work. It’s just leftists in the US and Europe run them horribly.

It's also the people utilizing the trains. People in Japan are more polite yet stand-offish, so you can functionally have many strangers packed into a train car and no issues arise. People mind their own business, yet permit the next guy to half invade their personal bubble. You have minimal vagrants, and not much of a certain class that likes to spray graffiti everywhere. That makes it much easier on the admin side to run such a clean and efficient system.
46 posted on 04/03/2020 12:25:14 PM PDT by Svartalfiar
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To: SeekAndFind

Just force everyone out of the cities and into the farms.

Worked really well for Pol Pot.


47 posted on 04/03/2020 12:25:57 PM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: central_va
We import tires for God’s sake. Almost all tires are imported and not made in the USA? Really Free Traitors™? How can a world power not make it’s own tires?????

I posted on another article recently, but same thing for ceiling fans - there's two companies that make 'em in these US, and both have only a single design (wife likes neither), and both cost at least $600. For a FAN.
48 posted on 04/03/2020 12:29:45 PM PDT by Svartalfiar
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To: central_va

LOL

We do import tires. We also make a heck of a lot of them.

Trick is we have to get the rubber imported.


49 posted on 04/03/2020 1:10:35 PM PDT by redgolum (If this culture today is civilization, I will be the barbarian)
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To: redgolum

Tires are made from petroleum compounds and not rubber. Most passenger car tires are imported. It is sad and nothing LOL about.


50 posted on 04/04/2020 5:35:58 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn....)
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To: Svartalfiar

Find a drill press that is not commercial grade high end but affordable and still made in the USA. Good luck.


51 posted on 04/04/2020 5:38:04 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn....)
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To: central_va

Sir, your ignorance is show8. I worked for Firestone. I was an engineer that made truck, tractor, and mining tires. They are med from a blend of natural and synthetic rubber. The synthetic blend is hydrocarbon based, but we got rail cars of natural rubber in. A few times we found snakes in also.

The US makes a lot of tires. We had affiliated plants making passenger tires, and imported few of them. Now, there are Chinese plants that ship to Walmart and Costco, but I haven’t seen one with a decent calendar base yet. That means the trend will separate from the carcass (inside baseball terms), and can cause a dangerous situation.

The three plants I worked with are still pumping rubber out. The one in Des Moines is running at full speed, and I see it every so often


52 posted on 04/04/2020 7:21:26 AM PDT by redgolum (If this culture today is civilization, I will be the barbarian)
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To: central_va
Find a drill press that is not commercial grade high end but affordable and still made in the USA. Good luck.

Oh yea. Your only option there is getting really really lucky on Craigslist.
53 posted on 04/04/2020 9:36:13 AM PDT by Svartalfiar
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To: redgolum
The US makes a lot of tires.

How about posting the total number of tires sold in 1 year. Then how many are made in the USA and how many are imported. Please educate us.

54 posted on 04/04/2020 1:13:41 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn....)
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To: central_va
Tires are an interesting market. My last car came from Canada with Michelin tires mfg in Poland. FWIW they were excellent in all respects, especially wet traction.

Here's some info on tire imports.

Thailand has assumed the role as the No. 1 source of imported tires, shipping 37.3 million units last to the U.S., a 10.2% jump over 2018. South Korea, Mexico, Indonesia and Canada round out the top five.

55 posted on 04/04/2020 1:27:10 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: nascarnation

As usual the data is unreadable on purpose. No understandable breakdown of what is made in the USA and what is imported. A total BS pro globalist data product. Useless BS.


56 posted on 04/04/2020 1:53:53 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn....)
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To: nascarnation

What does “replacement shipment” even means? Does that bogus term mean tires made in the USA? A total crock of poop poo data product.


57 posted on 04/04/2020 1:56:29 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn....)
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To: central_va

There are two major categories that comprise the tire market.
OEM and replacement.

OEM are installed at the factory.
Replacement by tire shops, etc.


58 posted on 04/04/2020 2:04:42 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: nascarnation

OK that still doesn’t explain what “replacement shipment” even means. Which are made in the USA and which are not? The data doesn’t explain that. Again it is just a Bull shit data product.


59 posted on 04/04/2020 2:07:53 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn....)
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To: Svartalfiar

Yeah that’s definitely true. Bad government is a product of bad people.


60 posted on 04/04/2020 8:28:46 PM PDT by ksm1
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